Everything Bargnani: Grumble, Grumble, Grumble

[RAPresenting]

Idk Lebron james should do

Think the Heat would throw in a pick or two?

[Raptor_11]

May as well throw in Wade and Bosh to make the trade fair

[RAPresenting]

May as well throw in Wade and Bosh to make the trade fair

In that case perhaps we should send back a second rounder or two... BC loves handing those out like it's business cards.

[ReubenJRD]

I love watching Gasol but that would be a terrible move for the team. That would put the team in a win now position still with no small forward worth mentioning, back up PG (Lucas doesn't do it for me), back up center (Gasol could play this but we wouldn't have an other big off the bench outside of the inconsistent Davis). No where near good enough to compete now and doesn't help the cause long term either. By the way I think the Lakers would take Bargnani and Jose straight up for Gasol as that would make their team much better then currently constructed. I'd much rather it be a three way deal with Gasol going else where at 32 he doesn't help us and when our young guys are ready to win he'll be useless.

Gay would be nice although over payed IMO. No one should be making the max with out an all-star appearance. Grizzlies already have Z-Bo, Gasol and Speights not to mention Aurther so these 3 players you've mentioned won't get a deal done as you make an already crowded front court even more crowded.

Smith is a nice talent but he's a FA and is going to get near a max deal? You want to pay Smith that kind of money if he's even willing to stay?

26 million doesn't seem like a lot... it is a lot! I agree that those players can return value but your making it out to be easy for that kind of money to be moved. I don't trust BC in big deals as he loses them every time (JO twice) or trust him with FA money (Gasol or Smith walk) as we get Hedo, Kapono, Fred Jones, Fields type players. Remember the value of Barbosa's expiring? Do I think the 3 players can be moved? No doubt but hell freezing over is more likely then the 3 of them for the players you've mentioned.

At this moment, depending on how things pan out with Bargnani, and how these deals will work between the teams, I would agree, Gasol would put this team in a fair hole for the future. Putting the team in a win-now position, but I only mentioned those players because well, they're the only 'high' names likely. (Although, still unlikely.) Secondly, I never said 26$ million DOESN'T seem like a lot, I said it does seem like a lot, but depending on the returning value, I mentioned the expiring estimate of 10$ million in Jose's contract, which would be a very appealing asset to any team in the tax, possibly even those teams with barely over the cap, to open up money for off-season movements.

Amir + Bargnani + Calderon is a lot of money, but, those 3 in a trade COULD, I repeat COULD be traded for acquiring solid, good assets. Didn't mention money, didn't mention who specifically other than those names, because I was speaking to the trade value. Right now, Bargnani could be pretty low on the market, but most teams will know his strengths and weaknesses, same with Amir and Calderon. Most teams would like to have the very serviceable contributions of Calderon and Amir.

So going back to my comment. Jose + Amir + Bargnani + 2nd round picks could net us some nice assets. Allowing to free up the log jam at the 4, bring in a young guard, possibly another expiring deal, a wing player. Not saying these acquired assets are elite players, just at the market worth to Jose, Amir, and Bargnani. All capable of being starters on any given team.

[draftedraptor]

Scroll back to the older posts where I argue how Gallinari is much better than Bargnani in every way.
I had all the veteran users calling for my head. How good is that deal looking now?

[draftedraptor]

Primo bosses would be happy with Gallinari too.

[Soft Euro]

Scroll back to the older posts where I argue how Gallinari is much better than Bargnani in every way.
I had all the veteran users calling for my head. How good is that deal looking now?

Gallinari hasn't played exactly good this year either.

[enlightenment]

Gallinari hasn't played exactly good this year either.

*well

[Soft Euro]

*well

Was wondering about that ... It's one of these things I tend to make mistakes in. Thx.

[enlightenment]

No worries ! Its super common, but I feel that people would prefer speaking well (not speaking good) so I try to correct them. :P

[p00ka]

Scroll back to the older posts where I argue how Gallinari is much better than Bargnani in every way.
I had all the veteran users calling for my head. How good is that deal looking now?

How good is it looking? Just as senseless as it always has. You say trade for a guy who essentially plays the same game, but whether looking at career or this year, has a lower FG%, lower 3P%, and fewer rebounds, worse offensive rating, basically the same defensive rating. What makes that an attractive trade to you?

[Nilanka]

I'm not saying I'm for a Bargnani/Gallo swap, but the fact that Gallo plays SF (instead of PF or C), would make his defensive weaknesses much more tolerable compared to Bargnani. Gallo wouldn't have the same rotation/rim protection responsibilities that Bargnani is often stuck with.

[draftedraptor]

I'm not saying I'm for a Bargnani/Gallo swap, but the fact that Gallo plays SF (instead of PF or C), would make his defensive weaknesses much more tolerable compared to Bargnani. Gallo wouldn't have the same rotation/rim protection responsibilities that Bargnani is often stuck with.

exactly. Gallo is a SF.

Gallo brings in the same offensive qualities but he can run the floor and play at a higher intensity at both ends.

[Raptor_11]

exactly. Gallo is a SF.

Gallo brings in the same offensive qualities but he can run the floor and play at a higher intensity at both ends.

+1

[joey_hesketh]

Does anybody mind that as a mod, my first accomplishment be changing the name of this thread?
I think Hoopsworld has taken enough of a beating just by having that evidence that they wrote that, up for so long. Haha

[theycallmeZZ]

That, and change Val's "Buyout talk"

[joey_hesketh]

That, and change Val's "Buyout talk"

Good call. Done and done.

[Miekenstien]

i think grumble grumble grumble suits it perfect

[NoPropsneeded]

Does anybody mind that as a mod, my first accomplishment be changing the name of this thread?
I think Hoopsworld has taken enough of a beating just by having that evidence that they wrote that, up for so long. Haha

OMG Your a mod! Congrats brooo. I knew my man would make it to the top lol

[Soft Euro]

Perfect title