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    Quote RapthoseLeafs wrote: View Post
    What he isn't:

    1. Franchise player
    2. No. 1 option
    3. #1 overall draft pick (and fans need to let that go)



    What he is:

    1. Difficult to defend
    2. Scoring option from anywhere on the Court
    3. A floor spreader who can score in the paint (unlike Ilyasova)
    4. Someone who wants to play in Canada
    5. Good post defender
    6. Ideal off the Bench, with potential to rank amongst top 6th man types



    Why reassess him?

    1. The Rudy Gay factor is changing the dynamics of this team
    2. Opponent focus & Double coverage will be less
    3. Could make the Secondary a potent Bench


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    His inconsistencies trump everything.
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    Quote RapthoseLeafs wrote: View Post
    What he isn't:

    1. Franchise player
    2. No. 1 option
    3. #1 overall draft pick (and fans need to let that go)



    What he is:

    1. Difficult to defend
    2. Scoring option from anywhere on the Court
    3. A floor spreader who can score in the paint (unlike Ilyasova)
    4. Someone who wants to play in Canada
    5. Good post defender
    6. Ideal off the Bench, with potential to rank amongst top 6th man types



    Why reassess him?

    1. The Rudy Gay factor is changing the dynamics of this team
    2. Opponent focus & Double coverage will be less
    3. Could make the Secondary a potent Bench


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    +1 Agreed Im still saying move him but if there is nothing worthwhile might as well hold onto him a little longer and him playing this role as 6th man will only make his value increase as he will be way more effecient in that role look more attractive to potential suiters. Im not a big fan of the Ilyasova trade Bargs could net the team a whole lot more imo. The deadline is in a week and some days he currently has the flu his value is fluctuating like crazy between meh and ok trade him when value is higher, worked wonders for Ed and Calderon.

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    • Toronto general manager Bryan Colangelo, to the surprise of no one, is still more than willing to trade Raptors center Andrea Bargnani. But according to a person with knowledge of the situation, he continues to spark very little, if any, interest. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the talks.

    The No. 1 pick of the 2006 draft is owed $10.7 million next season and $11.5 million in 2014-15 (so long as he doesn't use his early termination option). Bargani, who tore a ligament in his right elbow on Dec. 10 and returned on Feb. 6, has seen serious declines in his production from last season to this one.

    Despite his playing time being almost identical (33.3 minutes per game compared to 32.2), his scoring (19.5 points per game to 15.8), shooting percentage (43.2% to 41%), and rebounding (5.5 to 4.2) are down. The talks between Toronto and Chicago involving forward Carlos Boozer are not seen

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-to-z/1913745/

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooo.
    This is reality and tonight's performance against Denver was proof of that. It's one thing to have porous defence, after all Amir and Jonas were just as culpable. But a rebound in 18 minutes is simply the ol' 50 Shades of Bargnani. We're stuck with this clown. Oh, and here we are talking about Colangelo's option. Wow!
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    Gah. As long as he isn't hurting the tea-

    Damn, well, thank Rudy Gay.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooo.
    Don't worry...the team is totally different now with Gay in town, and Bargnani is going to be a spark off the bench.

    All we need to do is keeping changing every single team variable to make sure Bargnani has a chance to shine. One day, it's going to work for at least 13 games, I guarantee it!
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    Bargs needs to be hypnotized to think he's KG.

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    Quote omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
    Bargs needs to be hypnotized to think he's KG.
    He needs to be amnestied.
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    Quote omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
    Bargs needs to be hypnotized to think he's KG.
    It wouldn't hurt. Kim Gretzky would likely bring more fire and desire.
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    I'm just glad Casey has the short leash on Bargnani now.
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    Man can this guy just get the hell out of dodge already?

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm just glad Casey has the short leash on Bargnani now.
    +1. Casey really seems to have the rotations down pat lately
    Not this guy!

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm just glad Casey has the short leash on Bargnani now.
    A short leash on him eh? Well be prepared to see him next season.

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    Quote T.Dot wrote: View Post
    A short leash on him eh? Well be prepared to see him next season.
    If that's the case, be prepared for another shitty season.
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    Some compelling arguments for Ilyasova becoming a Raptor in exchange for Bargnani!


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    +1 on the amnesty idea. Why give away young talent and/or picks along with him in a trade for another overpaid player? Maybe we could make a splash in 2014 free agency. If this team makes the playoffs next year, FAs might actually want to sign here.
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    He needs to be amnestied.

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    Quote Westvleteren wrote: View Post
    +1 on the amnesty idea. Why give away young talent and/or picks along with him in a trade for another overpaid player? Maybe we could make a splash in 2014 free agency. If this team makes the playoffs next year, FAs might actually want to sign here.
    If if Bargnani is amnestied, the team would still be over the salary cap and therefore only able to sign free agents for various exceptions. The Raps wouldn't be able to offer big contracts, unless done via S&T deal.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    If if Bargnani is amnestied, the team would still be over the salary cap and therefore only able to sign free agents for various exceptions. The Raps wouldn't be able to offer big contracts, unless done via S&T deal.
    +1

    They would likely be better off holding on to him, I hate to say, until he was an expiring..... and I wouldn't have to change my twitter handle
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    If Colangelo could pry Ilyasova from the Bucks for Bargs, I'd never speak a bad word of him again. Not only would we get the better player, the Bucks would become worse and give us a better chance of catching them!!

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Don't worry...the team is totally different now with Gay in town, and Bargnani is going to be a spark off the bench.

    All we need to do is keeping changing every single team variable to make sure Bargnani has a chance to shine. One day, it's going to work for at least 13 games, I guarantee it!
    AB is no spark of the bench. Last night he had 3 chances for a rebound in a sequence and got zero. He did have a block in this sequence but Knicks eventually scored. He gives no effort to go for ball unless it drops in his lap. Casey knows it but at least now Casey is playing to win games not appease the golden boy.

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