Barg's should have fouled Lasme- point blank, given the in game situation. Not wave him on by. Barg's could have easily fouled him but chose not to for whatever reason.Raúl wrote:
Barg's should have fouled Lasme- point blank, given the in game situation. Not wave him on by. Barg's could have easily fouled him but chose not to for whatever reason.
The one thing BC has always been consistent throughout his tenure with the Raps is that he's never been shy about fixing his mistakes and will be the first to correct those mistakes immediately: TJ Ford, Jermaine O'Neal, Hedo Turkoglu, Marco Bellinelli (a player whom he strongly coveted)....
If it is true that BC often gets plenty of trade offers for Bargs, doesn't that say plenty about Bargs talents and recognized by all the basketball minds league wide, especially considering the long term contract Andrea has just signed?? The fact of the matter is there are hardly any 7 footers in the league that can do what Andrea can, minus Dirk. The league has become a guard dominated league and to have a 7 footer who can run the floor, shoot the 3s at a decent percentage and to be able to take his man off the dribble... that kind of talent hardly comes by. It took Dirk years before he became the player that he is now and guess what, he's terrible defensively. Dirk has managed to put up double double stats yearly is because he's been paired with a decent, defensive centre to work with (DAmpier). Andrea has never had that kind of partner. CB was an offensive PF/C who was above average defensively.
In conclusion, BC's reluctance to trade Bargs has less to do about his pride and arrogance but more about his recognition of the talent that he has and the knowledge not to be low balled and wait for the right trade to come along.
+1
Especially considering he is a BYC player and his salary would only count for $4.25M in any trade.
swisk railled against guys who used toronto to vault their careers into stardom and then bolted.... and then he did the very same thing.
he's a scrawny little pencil-neck and I fart in his general direction.
"I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
Andris Biedrins was a good offer - if he could stay healthy it would be a huge trade for Toronto. Defense would be much better.
"I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
Didn't necessarily like Swirsky as an announcer in TO (actually found him quite annoying to say the least), but its unfair to say he bolted to vault his career. As I remember, there were family-related reasons that led to his departure. I spoke to him in Chicago and he said he never wanted to leave...
don't believe him he tried for years to get in to the NBA on radio or TV in the states could not make it and worked on his "SHTICK" relentlessly - nelson milman gave him a chance and he became bigger every year he stayed in NBA.
NBA used his call over marv alberts on some Vince dunks on his some NBA videos and suddenly he was on the radar - waited for his turn to get called back to Chicagoland - the second they called he bolted.
"I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
I believe it's for far more than just 2 preseason games at least on my behalf it is for his whole underachieving career. Bargnani is skilled but not willed.
Today I watched as Sherman Hamilton asked Bargnani about taking on team leadership responsibilities on a Raptors Today segment and Bargnani didn't even answer the question he just responded with I need to get better, work hard and be the best- wtf?
Here's a Sherman Hamilton interview with Bargnani I found from the 2008 preseason and he says the same exact shit he said today!!
Let his snug ass shot threes & fuck up defensive rotations for some other NBA team...........
Looks like Frankthetank has a taker for his bet offer- where's he at?
That sucks but where there's a will there's a way......only if BC had the will to trade his "Golden Child" Bargnani......***
We'll see how you feel 20 games into the regular season. Btw- I thought Jay had a competent system to implement last training camp??? Kool aid.........***
**crickets**
Harper: Andrea Bargnani Isn't a Bust Yet
Good piece courtesy of of one of our ESPN TrueHoop peers Zach Harper. Compares Bargnani's situation much same way Bogut's was when he came into the NBA.
Thoughts?
Source - Click hereIn my mind he’s always been a power forward forced to play center because Chris Bosh was his teammate, and he just happens to be seven feet tall. His label as a center was manufactured because they had nowhere else to put him. It’s very similar to when Andrew Bogut was drafted to the Bucks. During his rookie year, Bogut was forced to play power forward because the Bucks already had Jamaal Magloire.
Bogut was simply too slow to be an effective power forward and his game suffered immensely. According to 82games.com, when he played power forward he put up a PER rating of 15.2 and the guys he was defending posted a 17.6. When he played center as a rookie, he posted a PER of 18.7 and his opponents put up a 15.5. After the rookie season, he was inserted into the center position and he’s improved every season since. Now Bogut is one of the best defensive centers in the league, and the anchor of the Milwaukee team that made the playoffs last season because he’s able to play his natural position on the floor.
The same type of change could benefit Bargnani. His post defense is good. According to Synergy Sports, he was 80th in the league in points per possession given up in the post. In guarding the “roll man” on pick-and-roll plays, he ranked 13th in points per possession given up. Bargnani can play defense in certain areas of the game; he’s just bad when guys face up against him and he doesn’t help very well.
That’s why a change to the power forward slot and bringing in a defensive stopper inside would help him and his career so much. Playing defense is a lot easier when you know you have help at the basket. Giving Bargnani the confidence that someone has his back could work wonders for the way he tries to stop players from scoring.
We know the offense is there, and he’s capable of putting up nice scoring numbers. If the Raptors can figure out a way to improve his defense in the team concept, then maybe we won’t consider him to be such a bust right now.
Harper needs to do a little more research. I, as well as many around here, have already exposed those fallacies. How a guy who is really only good at post defense, and whose best attribute is drawing slower footer defenders out of the paint, is better at power forward is beyond me. I certainly don't think he's a bust. I think that's a ridiculous statement. The guy averaged 17.1 ppg. It's hard to say he's a bust. Personally, I'm not at all impressed with this writer.
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This is from an interview that Shaq did with Italian paper "Libero".
Source - Click hereShaquille O'Neal on Andrea Bargnani: "He won't become an All Star."
"He does not like the contact of the elbows, in area he's afraid of the "bulls" like me. He's good at pick and roll and shot well from outside but it's too little".
Shaq instead likes Gallinari: "Danilo can improve a lot. He plays hard with the right temperament: I like it. He will be a new force. He 's young and exciting for the crowd. He's fast and a great shooter. With him and D'Antoni NY Knicks are competing for the playoffs".
lmao...i like andrea but he is frigging soft...he seems more fitted to be an underwear model
I was watching NBA TV and saw they were doing a mini-preview on the New Orleans Hornets and Chris Webber said something about Emeka Okafor that can apply to Bargnani: If he was drafted 15 or 16th, he wouldn't be as harshly criticized. Because he's a no 1 pick and he's not Brandon Roy, Rajon Rondo or even Rudy Gay, he'll never be able to shake the feeling he could have been more. Right off the get go, we were comparing him to Dirk (a laughable notion now) and thinking he could be better than Bosh (a REALLY laughable notion now) and that's just a hard hill for him to climb. At this point, I'm not even sure if he'll be as good as Dino Radja was (17/8 average in 3 yrs).
Wonder if AB will have a better response than CB....or just curl up in a fetal position and shrug.
"Tim W.
Harper needs to do a little more research. I, as well as many around here, have already exposed those fallacies. How a guy who is really only good at post defense, and whose best attribute is drawing slower footer defenders out of the paint, is better at power forward is beyond me. I certainly don't think he's a bust. I think that's a ridiculous statement. The guy averaged 17.1 ppg. It's hard to say he's a bust. Personally, I'm not at all impressed with this writer."
I think the debate should begin again. Bargs shut down Elton Brand when we played the 76ers and say what you want about Brand, but he is a pretty good if slow power forward. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bargs can guard power forwards and it's a fallacy to think he can't. That pick and roll stat is especially interesting since a lot of power forwards like to be the roll guy and it's one I have never heard before. Some guys would burn him obviously, Aldridge for example, but think how much our defense would improve if we didn't have to rely on Bargs as our primary help defender.
"When Life gives you lemons, you clone those Lemons to make super lemons!"
-Scudworth
Shaq likes to pick on Raptor Guys. Let's see how Bargs responds.
"When Life gives you lemons, you clone those Lemons to make super lemons!"
-Scudworth
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