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Thread: Everything Bargnani: The Legend Continues

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    We should all feel like Blake does right now.

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    Quote ezz_bee wrote: View Post
    Nice little write up by kirk goldsberry from grantland...

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    Love that bold!
    what always amazes me about is his shot chart:



    no corner 3s - almost all of them from the foul line up.


    Strangely, even while he's often been called a one dimensional jumpshooter, even his 3 pt shooting and jump shooting was one dimensional

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Imagine if we picked up Kyle Korver and JJ Reddick as well...we wouldn't even need to play defense
    And Anthony Morrow and Carlos Delfino
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    The more I look at this trade the more I like it.

    What did Casey say that he wanted to add to the roster "veteran toughness inside", a mentor jamal-magloire type player. What was another need that we had? 3 pt shooting.

    Camby: If we can convince Camby to hang with us, so that we can flip him to a contender late in the year (like we did with Anthony Carter) he could bring inside toughness, defense, shot blocking, and great mentoring for JV.

    Quentin Richardson: I'm hearing that he signed a three year deal (one year guaranteed) so this looks less and less like someone we are going to waive immediately. He is a veteran who shoots 35% for his career from 3pt and is known as a good perimeter defender, also a good veteran presence in the locker room. A guy who can stretch the floor.

    Steve Novak: Gunslinger from the outside.

    We received potentially 3 good role players. Two guys that add defense, two guys that add three point shooting. All at very reasonable prices (Only 1 million of Camby's 2nd year salary is guaranteed) PLUS a first round pick and 2 second round picks. I think Masai hit a home run on this one, unbelievable deal for the Raps.

    Look for Masai to flip both Camby and Q-Rich at the end of the year for another 2nd rounder or two .... This guy is a beast.
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    Default Ujiri Turned Down David Lee Offer

    Golden State offered Lee in a package for Toronto's Andrea Bargnani, sources said, but the Raptors made a deal with the New York Knicks to shed the final two years, $22.5 million on Bargnani's contract.
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    Colangelo would have took this, called a press conference and told everybody how smart he is.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I personally didn't really care that he was drafted first overall.. my problem is that he was the antithesis of what a 7 footer should be able to do.. ie, rebound + defend.

    He had plenty of time to develop his rebounding/defense and because he had such a poor motor it was harder to watch him play. The eye test was showing that he was a liability to the team, and then stats backed that up. If he was given less minutes, a different role, and didn't cost as much then the fans would not be so outraged (at least in my opinion).

    Management failed Bargnani, and Bargnani failed management, and they both failed the fans. I am so glad that they are both finally gone.
    No excuses for not doing/developing what he should've and I'm in no way defending him. I'm only being fair to him where he deserves it.

    Worth mentioning that when you look at Bargnani's skill-set, it's that of a SF minus the agility which probably kept Coaches from starting him at SF. I always thought he was a SF in a PF's body.

    The team is quickly losing it's BC touch.
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    So how much does this deal save us exactly?

    Know better when Camby and Q-Rich have been bought out?

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    More and more impressed with Ujiri with each passing tid bit of news.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Source: Yahoo Sports

    Colangelo would have took this, called a press conference and told everybody how smart he is.
    No, Colangelo would have traded away our 2015 first-rounder to make this deal happen.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    So how much does this deal save us exactly?

    Know better when Camby and Q-Rich have been bought out?
    Can't buy out Q Rich. He has one year Guaranteed

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    I could see him being a huge momentum builder

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    Quote magoon wrote: View Post
    No, Colangelo would have traded away our 2015 first-rounder to make this deal happen.
    Or Colangelo would have expected Steph Curry in addition to Lee....

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    I'd love to see MU flip Novak & Camby & the 2016 1st round pick to LAC for Bledsoe & Butler (and Q-Rich if he's needed to match salaries again). I'd even include NY's 2017 2nd round pick, to further sweeten the pot.

    Novak would give LAC a cheaper Bargnani-esque stretch-4. Camby would be give them a veteran backup C. LAC would save about $2M this season, with only Novak guaranteed beyond this season.
    Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Mon Jul 1st, 2013 at 05:30 PM.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I'd love to see MU flip Novak & Camby & the 2016 1st round pick to LAC for Bledsoe & Butler.

    Novak would give LAC a cheaper Bargnani-esque stretch-4. Camby would be give them a veteran backup C. LAC would save about $2M this season, with only Novak guaranteed beyond this season.
    That would be amazing.

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    So, the 2016 1st round pick that the Knicks gave up. Is it lottery protected? because that Knicks team is pretty old and is one injury from being a real bad team.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    So, the 2016 1st round pick that the Knicks gave up. Is it lottery protected? because that Knicks team is pretty old and is one injury from being a real bad team.
    Toronto gets the lower 1st round pick in 2016, from either Denver or NY. From a previous trade, Denver has the option of switching picks with NY, if NY's 1st round pick in 2016 is higher than their own.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    So, the 2016 1st round pick that the Knicks gave up. Is it lottery protected? because that Knicks team is pretty old and is one injury from being a real bad team.
    not clear yet

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    man Knicks have A LOT of money paying Carmel Amare and Bargnani now goddam! they have the money teams like Bobcats and Sacramento dream of.

    I HAD A DRINK YESTERDAY WHEN BARGS WAS TRADED well a couple it was good news had to have something.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Toronto gets the lower 1st round pick in 2016, from either Denver or NY. From a previous trade, Denver has the option of switching picks with NY, if NY's 1st round pick in 2016 is higher than their own.
    I think Knicks have right to protect pick even if its swap pick, don't they ?

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    Anyone else really excited to see Novak "put on the belt" in the ACC?

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