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    I know all about his scoring. Let's see him rebound like that back here.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Let's see him rebound like that back here.
    As long as I see the same sort of effort, (and boxing out), then I'll be pleased. At this point I don't even care how many he grabs, just as long as I see some effort.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    As long as I see the same sort of effort, (and boxing out), then I'll be pleased. At this point I don't even care how many he grabs, just as long as I see some effort.
    Boxing out and at least ensuring HIS Man doesn't get the ball will be good enough for me.

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    And Tim how do you expect that log jam to end? Logically? Cause I don't.

    I know you have some new found faith in BC since this offseason.... but I'm not going to buy his love affair with Andrea has ended until I see it (ie. coming of the bench or traded), or until Andrea becomes the productive player he could be.

    Anyone who has had an addiction can tell you. Quitting is easy, not starting again is the tough part.
    Logically, Bargnani is the odd man out. He doesn't fit in with the new defensive theme, he's moving to a position that already is well looked after, he's fallen out of favour with the fans, and he's shown almost no improvement in important areas year after year. Whether Colangelo does the logical thing, no one knows, but from his remarks it's clear even Colangelo is getting fed up with Bargnani. I know a lot of people feel that Colangelo will NEVER trade him, but I highly doubt he's going to stake his job on Bargnani, and that's essentially what he would be doing.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    As long as I see the same sort of effort, (and boxing out), then I'll be pleased. At this point I don't even care how many he grabs, just as long as I see some effort.
    I will first admit that I haven't watched him play this summer, but from what I've read the effort is still not very consistent.

    As for what you said earlier about people not appreciating his scoring as much as they should, I disagree. The problem is that there's nothing else to his game, so his scoring ends up not mattering as much. Look at Corey Maggette or Al Harrington. Both very good scorers, but they bounce around from team to team because that's ALL they do.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I will first admit that I haven't watched him play this summer, but from what I've read the effort is still not very consistent.

    As for what you said earlier about people not appreciating his scoring as much as they should, I disagree. The problem is that there's nothing else to his game, so his scoring ends up not mattering as much. Look at Corey Maggette or Al Harrington. Both very good scorers, but they bounce around from team to team because that's ALL they do.
    Indeed, I've also heard the effort is inconsistent, but still .. fluctuating between Medium Effort to High Effort is better than Low Effort and Medium. haha

    And I also agree that his 1-Dimensional play does tend to desensitize us to that 1-Dimension that he offers.

    I was simply pointing out that averaging 22pts in the Tourney is quite impressive.
    We as Raptors fans just don't find it AS impressive, because we've always been aware of his scoring ability, and have almost grown SICK of always hearing about his scoring. Thus, we don't appreciate it as much as others in the basketball world might.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    As long as I see the same sort of effort, (and boxing out), then I'll be pleased. At this point I don't even care how many he grabs, just as long as I see some effort.
    ... The fact that we've never seen that more than a two or three game stretch in a season is enough to keep his rebounding ability a running joke.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    ... The fact that we've never seen that more than a two or three game stretch in a season is enough to keep his rebounding ability a running joke.
    This is the 3,829th post on this thread and you guys are still talking about Bargnani's rebounding. I think that's just sad.

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    This is the 3,829th post on this thread and you guys are still talking about Bargnani's rebounding. I think that's just sad.

    Maybe we could talk about how many points he scores. Oh yeah thats been done 3,830 times. Maybe we can talk about the other things he does... oh wait......

    Maybe if we don't talk about him he'll go away?

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    Maybe we could talk about how many points he scores. Oh yeah thats been done 3,830 times. Maybe we can talk about the other things he does... oh wait......

    Maybe if we don't talk about him he'll go away?
    I'm convinced with 5000 replies and a quarter of a million views, he will be gone. Keep discussing in circles.

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    This is the 3,829th post on this thread and you guys are still talking about Bargnani's rebounding. I think that's just sad.
    Would you prefer to talk about what he ate last night? How about his favorite book? You start.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Would you prefer to talk about what he ate last night? How about his favorite book? You start.
    i know the answer to the first one, PRIMO PASTA!

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    Maybe we could talk about how many points he scores. Oh yeah thats been done 3,830 times. Maybe we can talk about the other things he does... oh wait......

    Maybe if we don't talk about him he'll go away?
    I agree with your last sentence, 1 million, billion, trillion, gazillion times.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Would you prefer to talk about what he ate last night? How about his favorite book? You start.
    Sure, if that makes you guys happy.
    But im pretty sure you'll eventually find something wrong about that too.
    He shouldnt have ate that coz it will make him fat, or thats not an interesting book to read.
    im sure you'll find something.

    i saw this on my cousin's FB page, its perfect for you guys:

    Haters are your number one fans. They will take time out of their day to hate on when you dont even care about whats happening in theirs. So make sure to thank your haters for reminding you that you're doing something right.

    It had over 50 likes, maybe Bargnani was one of them, hehehe.

    Im not defending Bargnani here, and id be really happy if the Raptors trade him, but i find it utterly amusing that a newbie comes in here and starts pointing out how Bargnani is performing at Eurobasket, how good he's scoring, how slim he is, how agile he is, but the same people jump in and points out how he's being a tease, points out his rebounding, defense when its already been sooooooooooooooo played out, saying over the same things, over and over, and over and over......

    Tim W. once said - insanity is the result of repetition. go figure.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Would you prefer to talk about what he ate last night? How about his favorite book? You start.
    Talk about something else. Something interesting. Youre an admin. Work your magic.

    Im not trying to pick fights or anything, but im pretty sure everybody here in RR already knows Bargnani is not the greatest rebounder, not the greatest defender, we get it. Time to move on! NEXT!

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    hahaha sorry bout the rant
    long day at work
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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    Talk about something else. Something interesting. Youre an admin. Work your magic.

    Im not trying to pick fights or anything, but im pretty sure everybody here in RR already knows Bargnani is not the greatest rebounder, not the greatest defender, we get it. Time to move on! NEXT!
    you know if you don't have an interest talking or reading about Bargnani you could, you know, NOT go into the "Everything Bargnani" thread.

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    Talk about something else. Something interesting. Youre an admin. Work your magic.

    Im not trying to pick fights or anything, but im pretty sure everybody here in RR already knows Bargnani is not the greatest rebounder, not the greatest defender, we get it. Time to move on! NEXT!
    Ha, ha, its the off-season. What happens in the off-season? Reruns.

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    you know if you don't have an interest talking or reading about Bargnani you could, you know, NOT go into the "Everything Bargnani" thread.
    Ive thought about that.
    But i go into this thread with the hope that id be able to read something new and interesting about people's thoughts on Bargnani. Unfortunately, some are more repetitive than others. And the unavoidable thing is, to get to the interesting ones, you have to go through the same stuff discussed over and over and over again.

    I think i commented on one of Tim's comments, when he kind built up Bargnani on how he wants him not to be a great rebounder, but rather a consistent one. And how he doesnt expect Bargnani to be a great defender, but rather a decent one. And then he says, but i dont think he'll ever be able to be consistent or decent. so i said, wow, you extend your hand in friendship and then kick sand on his face. started interesting then back to the usual.

    Doesnt really matter if they stop or not, i cant control what people say. im just putting it out there that its a played out discussion.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Ha, ha, its the off-season. What happens in the off-season? Reruns.
    fair enough!

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