I dont agree with the competitive part.
No human being is uncompetitive. It just varies in each individual the intensity of competitiveness and what brings this out in them.
I remember reading an article with one of the Raps training staff or coaches (can't remember who) about Julian Wright, at the end of the season. Basically the guy was saying Wright didn't have a very good jump shot because he had never needed to use it in college or highschool. He was always bigger, stronger and more athletic than the next guy, so he could just play around and above the rim (insert video of him missing a breakaway dunk here) Anyways, the guy was saying Wright needed to spend alot of time working on his shot, but didn't seem very confident that Wright would ever be an effective enough offensive player because of it.
I can see this applying to Andrea aswell. I imagine for most of his time playing ball, up to and including pro in Italy, he was bigger, faster and stronger than most of the guys he played with. His D and rebounding came from his superior size (and he was a very good size even at a young age when playing pro in europe). He also 'grew up' (for lack of another term) as a jump shooting big. Its what he knows because its what he's always known and was expected to do. Unless he ever decides to put in a concerted effort to change his habits, he will likely always revert to them.... much like we saw this past year. He needs to completely change his comfort zone and I for one am not convinced that he has the capacity to do that. Hell its not easy for any human to do that.
Quitting something is easy, not picking it up again is always the hard part.
But that's a different problem than the issue with Bargnani. His skills are not the biggest problem and the discussion here seems to revolve around his intensity. That is much more a personality issue which won't change (that much) anymore. In spite of the beliefs last century most of your personality is what you are born with and the influence of your environment in a very young age, that is, your very first years. After that, not much will change; you can learn stuff, but your natural personality is pretty much what it is. Bargnani won't turn all Kobe on us and get that killer attitude, he won't even get Reggie on us. He might be able to bring intensity for short periods of time (just like it is with most of us) but there is no way this will change. And frankly, because it is what it is and it won't change much, blaming him for not being intense doesn't make a lot of sense. Carter didn't have the intensity of Iverson who just kept attacking and attacking without caring about injuries (until everybody got fed up with it).
Skills can be learned, changing your personality is pretty much impossible other than learning how to deal with the negative sides of your personality.
Btw, I don't think there are that many players who have that mentality to be able to bring it every game on both sides of the court.
The problem with trying to change Bargnani's instincts is that he's already 25 years old. In basketball terms, that's close to middle age. Especially since he's been playing professionally since he was a teenager. The thing about instincts, is that you don't think about them. You react. It takes years to "get" instincts. This is why I liked Ed Davis. He had good instincts. Same with Valanciunas. Instincts are the hardest thing to change. And you're asking a 25 year old to change his after 5 years in the NBA.
Rashard Lewis has one of the worst contracts in the NBA, so pointing to his contract as a way of showing how Bargnani's contract is alright doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
If Bargnani has never shown the attitude and temperament that CHampionship players generally have, then I fail to understand why you'd keep him. Couple that with the fact that he's shown to be a LIABILITY the majority of time he's on the court, and I really don't see the point in trying to keep him. It's like trying to figure out how to make a boat made of stone float.
I'm not a proponent of cutting him, but I think he needs to go, both for on court reasons and his contract.
Being competitive is human nature.
im pretty sure at some point in your wife's life she either competed against her siblings for attention of their parents, or wanted to beat out other girls to get into the school play, or wanted to beat out 10 other applicants applying for the same job she wanted.
Maybe we can say the same for Bargnani? hehehe
Sorry guys but we're talking about one aspect of Bargnani's basketball personality here. IMO, he's a decent one on one defender. He's inconsistent with help D, and thats what prevents him from being a good defender. We are not expecting him to change his whole basketball acumen, what he needs to work on is his help D acumen. Is that hard to change? I say no. Again, with the proper coaching and training. You hammer it into his head, "when caldy loses his man, you do this". This is what practice time is for. And i really dont buy the "instincts" are hard to change. Drug addicts have been addicts for years, they enter rehab for a year or two and theyre sober. A meat eater all his life decides to become a vegetarian and is able to change his diet in a year or two. Bargnani can surely learn how to defend instinctively with the proper coaching and training. There are 82 games in a season and at least 2 practice sessions in between games. Common now.
Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Fri Oct 7th, 2011 at 02:21 PM.
So you mean to say, if your wife's boss comes to her and says, i need you to increase your quota by 2% everyday because Martha Stewart over there beats you everyday by 1%, she would do it the following day and then quit her job the next day so she can change the "circumstances"?
If yes then i did make a mistake on the comparison.
Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Fri Oct 7th, 2011 at 02:35 PM.
And you're not talking about instincts. You're talking about habits. And most drug addicts and meat eaters eventually return to their old ways. So maybe those aren't good examples for you to use.
The chance of Bargnani turning into a good defender are about as good as Amir turning into a 20 ppg scorer. Why not focus on turning Amir into a scorer? At least he hustles and works hard.
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