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    Default Amir Johnson's Unique NBA All Time Record

    I did an advanced stats search on basketballreference.com based upon the following four criteria

    All career numbers

    1. Minutes equal to or greater than 3,000
    2. TS% (True Shooting Percentage) equal to or greater than .600
    3. eFG% (Effective Field Goal Percentage) equal to or greater than .600
    4. WS/48 (Win Shares per 48 Minutes) equal to or greater than .150

    Got one result



    Amir Johnson.

    So right now he is the only player in the history of the NBA according to basketballreference.com to have played 3,000 or more career minutes, had a TS% and eFG% equal to or greater than .600 and a WS/48 equal to or greater than .150

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...order_by_asc=Y
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    That dosnt sound right, but im not sure...

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    All made up stats that don't reflect a player's ability on the floor, nice. Next you're going to throw out PER numbers at us.

    /sarcasm

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    does that mean he will be the new franchise player?

    haha i kid i kid i joke i joke

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    RAPTORS Republic Not AMIR Republic

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    On the other hand Johnson is one of only 14 players in NBA history who

    1. Have played 3,000 or more minutes

    and

    2. Averaged 6.5 or more fouls per 36 minutes

    Andrew DeClercq has the all time record of most minutes played while averaging 6.5 or more fouls per 36 mpg. He played almost 10,000 minutes in 587 games for 16.8 mpg over 10 years.

    http://bit.ly/ai1rWZ

    If you lower the career foul rate to 6.0 then you get 51 players who played over 3,000 career minutes with the infamous Alton Lister having the most minutes all time of all players who averaged at least 6.0 fouls per 36 mpg. Lister played for 17 seasons and averaged about 19.9 mpg for a total of 18,965 minutes.

    So it seems to me that Johnson's worse case assuming no serious injury or injuries is about about 10 years and 16.8 mpg. Right now his career averages are 6.5 fouls per 36 minutes and 15.2 mpg.

    So worse case he will be out of the league when his current contract with the Raptors expires. Possible if his foul rate doesn't improve or even gets worse


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...listeal01.html

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...l=&order_by=ws

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnsam01.html
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    you must be board budda, you should spent a lil more time with the wife. appreciate the random knowledge though

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    I lowered the criteria to 5.5 fouls per 36 minutes

    There were 117 players in that list with Darryl Dawkins aka "Chocolate Thunder" probably being the best.

    His career stats

    Seasons----------14
    Games---------1,726
    Min per game---23.7
    PPG------------12.0
    RPG-------------6.1
    WS/48---------12.9
    Win Shares-----46.4
    Fouls per 36 Min-5.8

    Johnson averaged 4.0 fouls per 36 min in his five starts in 09-10

    If you lower the career number to 4.5 fouls per 36 minutes you get 399 players. There were some pretty good players in that list

    Tom Heinsohn
    Vern Mikkelsen
    Tree Rollins
    James "Buddah" Edwards -
    Shawn Kemp
    Rik Smits
    Caldwell Jones


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    More interesting NBA all time advanced stats

    Query on Career

    1. 3000 or more minutes
    2. PER equal to or greater than 15.0
    3. Offensive Rating equal to or greater than 120
    4. Defensive Rating equal to or less than 105

    Four players on the list

    John Stockton
    Magic Johnson
    Chris Paul
    Amir Johnson - Amir is the only big on the list though Magic did player center in one game as I recall

    http://bit.ly/9fnx4j

    Amir eats advanced stats. I just wish he would stop eating personal fouls
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    you should send all this info to John Hollinger and ask for his opinion. Does it increase his opinion of Amir or does it question his faith in advanced stats?
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    You can can use stats to prove anything. 78% of people know that.

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    Amir Johnson eats stats, both good and bad.

    The guy is a stat machine

    Most freakish thing I have ever seen in the NBA numbers world.

    If you are into stats, which I obviously am along with some others, who would that be? then you got to like this guy whether he becomes a all-star or winds up as a bench energy player.
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    +1

    Amir Johnson single-handedly dismisses the validity of PER. Now THAT would be a career accomplishment.
    Last edited by DonCarlos; Mon Aug 9th, 2010 at 04:21 PM.

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    Double post.
    Last edited by DonCarlos; Mon Aug 9th, 2010 at 04:21 PM. Reason: Double post.

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    Quote DonCarlos wrote: View Post
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    Amir Johnson singlehandedly dismisses the validity of PER. Now THAT would be a career accomplishment. :lol:
    Its truly amazing what can happen when one eats advanced stats
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    i really hate to say it but, is amir in bed with you right now?

    holy, you are begging to creep me out with all this amir johnson stuff.
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    i really hate to say it but, is amir in bed with you right now?

    holy, you are begging to creep me out with all this amir johnson stuff.
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