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    I got into a trade machine situation with DeMar and Mayo. I wouldn't be upset if it happened. I'm not shocked if BC becomes an active participant by the deadline. Shocked if he stands pat.
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    Default Time for NJ to stop Pursuing Melo

    It is quite obvious NJ is not going to land Carmelo Anthony.

    NJ is in possession of their own 2011/2012 1st round draft picks plus these draft picks:
    2011 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
    2012 first round draft pick from Golden State
    2012 first round draft pick from Houston
    2012 second round draft pick from Miami

    They have a promising rookie in Favors.
    They have $11.9M expiring contract in Troy Murphy.

    If they can't get a deal done for Melo with all these assets, Melo doesn't want to go to NJ because DEN would take these pieces in a heart beat.

    Because of this, NJ should shift there focus elsewhere.

    I would try to acquire AI from PHI and Wallace from CHA.

    I think they have the assets to get it done by themselves or through possible three way deals. Philly is easy as Murphy would help this year. Chalotte is the harder one as they have such little depth and needs everywhere.

    PHI: Troy Murphy and 2 draft picks (1 this year and 1 next)

    CHA: Harris and ???? plus 2 draft picks (1 this year and 1 next)

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    Only problem is, from Denver's perspective NJ has the best trade assets for them in return. NYK can be where Melo wants to play, but the Knicks have a good thing going right now (outside of their blowout loss to the Heat last night) and giving up alot of key role players to acquire Melo might not help them as must as one might think.

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    Only problem is, from Denver's perspective NJ has the best trade assets for them in return. NYK can be where Melo wants to play, but the Knicks have a good thing going right now (outside of their blowout loss to the Heat last night) and giving up alot of key role players to acquire Melo might not help them as must as one might think.
    Yes but NJ isn't doing the deal without an extension. If Melo would sign the extension, NJ would take him in a heartbeat.

    The Knicks don't have what the Nuggets want but Carmelo can go there after this season and NYK will have ability to sign him outright. Melo will leave money on the table going this route though.

    Bottom line: NJ should start using assets elsewhere.

    As an aside: Do you think NJ are better moving forward with Melo or with AI and Wallace? I'd go the latter because they keep Favors and if a multi team trade was done, they might be able to find a way to keep Harris as well.

    As another aside: Lopez is only averaging 6.5 rebounds this year. He has regressed, big time.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Yes but NJ isn't doing the deal without an extension. If Melo would sign the extension, NJ would take him in a heartbeat.

    The Knicks don't have what the Nuggets want but Carmelo can go there after this season and NYK will have ability to sign him outright. Melo will leave money on the table going this route though.

    Bottom line: NJ should start using assets elsewhere.

    As an aside: Do you think NJ are better moving forward with Melo or with AI and Wallace? I'd go the latter because they keep Favors and if a multi team trade was done, they might be able to find a way to keep Harris as well.

    As another aside: Lopez is only averaging 6.5 rebounds this year. He has regressed, big time.

    no he hsnt regresed "big time", he's actually averaging more points, more free throw attempts per game in TWO LESS MINUTES per game !!

    god i cant believe you think you know anything about ball.

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    ... Are you serious? Brook Lopez is averaging another 0.5 points a game... taking 0.7 more FTA and 1.4 FGA a game.

    He's also shooting a lower TS%, cut his assist rate in half, and rebounding at a career low rate. He's also last in DRR (3% behind the second last Bargnani) and second last in TRR. (link) His attempts at the rim have been cut in half (and his FG% on them has even gone down), while his attempts from everywhere else has increased, despite him being an above average shooter from... actually, nowhere.

    ... I could go on and on, but I won't. And trust me, I wish he was doing well; he was my second pick on one of my fantasy teams.

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    Looks like I was not 100% correct on the 'no way NJ lands Melo'.

    One thing that does look obvious is that if he ends up in NJ it is going to be a very large trade. It would seem the hangup on getting him there is the quality of the team. I'd like to know who the rumoured trade partners are for the multi-team trade.

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    New Jersey should just stop, it's their fault they are in this mess, they had money in the summer instead of saving it or spending wisely they spent it all on Farmar and Outlaw. Too bad for them, Melo clearly doesn't want to go there.

    p.s Brook Lopez isn't as good as most think, his stats last year were bloated, look at his stats for the last few months and this year.

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    Default Melo Deal Will Happen Next Week

    Two sources said Thursday evening that the long-anticipated trade of Carmelo Anthony, barring last-minute snags, was expected to be consummated next week.

    The three-team deal between Denver, the Nets and Detroit would send Anthony and Chauncey Billups, along with other players, to New Jersey, with the Nets sending first-round pick Derrick Favors and two future firsts to Denver. Pistons guard Rip Hamilton would join Anthony and Billups in New Jersey, with forward Troy Murphy going to Detroit. Additional players from New Jersey would go to Detroit and Denver to make the deal work.

    It remains unknown whether Anthony will commit to signing an extension with the Nets if he is traded there. New Jersey owner Mikhail Prokhorov is confident that if he can acquire Anthony
    Source: NBA.com

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    This is going to be interesting.. does Carmelo sign long term with Jersey? What happens with Billups? I know he doesn't want to leave Denver, but does he hold out to get bought out?

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    Default Is Melo Fools Gold?

    Mr. Anthony is on pace to finish this season worth the equivalent of 6.8 wins, using the metric "Wins Produced" that predicts how statistics correlate to winning. Developed by Southern Utah University economics professor David Berri, Wins Produced devalues scoring totals in favor of other stats, particularly shooting efficiency.

    Essentially, Mr. Anthony scores like an elite player, but he requires more shots to put up his numbers than a true superstar. This season, Mr. Anthony holds an effective field goal percentage—a weighted statistic that takes 3-pointers into account—of 45.1%. By comparison, LeBron James's effective field goal percentage is 52%. A franchise player, Mr. Berri says, will produce between 25-30 wins a season. Chris Paul is on pace to have 25.8 Wins Produced this season. Last year, Mr. James had 27.2, and Dwight Howard had 22.3.
    Source: Wall Street Journal

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    I think Carmelo is a top 10 player with questionable work ethics that needs a tough and demanding coach and another star player to keep motivated.

    If brought to the right situation he is gold, if you don't have what I mentioned above then its fools gold.

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    I think this whole situation is pretty bad. It's ruining him and the Nuggets. I hope they trade him as soon as possible and end oall of this.

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    I think this whole situation is pretty bad. It's ruining him and the Nuggets. I hope they trade him as soon as possible and end oall of this.
    I find it ironic that Melo slagged Bosh in the way he handled his impending free-agency. I think the end result for both is the same no matter how you cut it. I mean, he's still playing with the team and teammates that he doesn't want to be with. Yes, he is letting his intentions be known but like Bosh, they both want to have their cakes and eat it too.
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    Default Nets Not going After 'Melo anymore

    There's a live feed on NBA.com with the Mickael Provokov http://www.nba.com/live1/

    I guess it's over

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    lol carmelo turned them down, he told them they can just tell the media they declined
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    I'm calling a bluff, but if it's not, then that's epic fail for the Nuggets. They got really greedy.

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    Quote WhatWhat wrote: View Post
    I'm calling a bluff, but if it's not, then that's epic fail for the Nuggets. They got really greedy.
    +1 on the bluff.

    Here is the ESPN write uP: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=6038636

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    If it is not a bluff, the question becomes: Do they stand pat and rebuild? Or do they go after another 'known' NBA player?

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