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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...-PowerForwards

    I think he should at least have been mentioned as the 6th man.

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    they left out amir, gooden, and alot of other guys they prolly only focused on the top 5.
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    He will be in a couple of years, lets hope!

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
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    I think he should at least have been mentioned as the 6th man.
    I would much rather have him be able to stay on the court for 30 plus minutes a game then care what ESPN thinks and writes about him, or for that matter any writers in the LSM write about him.

    Johnson's motto for 10-11 should be

    "30 plus mpg or bust"

    My guess is 25 mpg in 10-11

    We shall see.
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    I think amir will be a 30min guy next season, pending a really big signing before the season starts.

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    I think amir will be a 30min guy next season, pending a really big signing before the season starts.
    Only if he can stay out of foul trouble.

    Maybe I have followed his career for too long and just haven't seen him reducing his foul rate over that time.

    Basically if he wants to play 30 mpg he will need to

    limit his Q1 foul to one
    limit his Half time fouls to two

    and still be at least somewhat effective on defense in the process.

    If the can do that which I am not too optimistic that he can then he will be able to average 30 + mpg. If he keeps getting two fouls in the first quarter and three or more by Half time there is no way he will average over 25 mpg even if that.
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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
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    I think he should at least have been mentioned as the 6th man.
    Because of what? To the league he's just some kid who hit the jackpot. What about Tyrus Thomas for example? Better volume stats, taken much higher in the draft and finished last season very strong.

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    Because of what? To the league he's just some kid who hit the jackpot. What about Tyrus Thomas for example? Better volume stats, taken much higher in the draft and finished last season very strong.
    Absolutely

    Besides as Raptors fans we don't want any LSM hype of him at this point. He is going to have enough pressure on him to earn those big bucks. The Raptors not getting too much if any? Network TV coverage in the USA other than some NBA/TV should also help keep the pressure down.

    In fact this lower pressure level should help all the young guys.
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    Only if he can stay out of foul trouble.

    Maybe I have followed his career for too long and just haven't seen him reducing his foul rate over that time.

    Basically if he wants to play 30 mpg he will need to

    limit his Q1 foul to one
    limit his Half time fouls to two

    and still be at least somewhat effective on defense in the process.

    If the can do that which I am not too optimistic that he can then he will be able to average 30 + mpg. If he keeps getting two fouls in the first quarter and three or more by Half time there is no way he will average over 25 mpg even if that.
    We also have to consider, that as a perennial bench player, his coaches have always asked him to come out and provide energy. If he held back, his coaches would yank him because he was not playing his role of energy guy. It was a 'Catch 22' for him...
    Either hold back, stay out of foul trouble, and get yanked for not giving that spark; or do as the coach says--play hard, give the team the hustle plays they need (rebounding, blocks, picks, physical D) and get into foul trouble as a result.

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    We also have to consider, that as a perennial bench player, his coaches have always asked him to come out and provide energy. If he held back, his coaches would yank him because he was not playing his role of energy guy. It was a 'Catch 22' for him...
    Either hold back, stay out of foul trouble, and get yanked for not giving that spark; or do as the coach says--play hard, give the team the hustle plays they need (rebounding, blocks, picks, physical D) and get into foul trouble as a result.
    The guy has come off of the bench for under 200 games in the is his career along with 29 starts and has just turned 23. I would not consider that perennial bench player, though that is what he in fact may become.

    In Ben Wallace's first three season in the NBA he only started 3 more games than Amir has started.

    I would hate to think where the Pistons would have been over the last decade if they thought like you do.

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    Johnson has earned a chance to start. If it works great, if not it won't take long to see that. It is worth the minimal risk to the Raptors.

    I would much rather give him the chance to see what he can do as a starter than Davis. At least at this point. Why? Because we have already seen that when Amir is on the court he is more often than not a positive force. We an only hope that about Davis, but he is a rookie with limited college experience. There will be steep learning curve for him.

    Its not like if he is given the chance and flops that Davis will never get the chance.

    Some say, why not start Davis and handle him like the Raptors did DeMar last season. The reason is that there was not way that Wright was ever going to be in the long term plans of the Raptors. Whereas Amir will be, so give him first crack at it and make it his to lose.
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    amir wont start!!

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    Quote Mr.Grinch wrote: View Post
    amir wont start!!
    You could be correct.

    All one can ask that he be given the chance that he has earned.

    Davis ain't earned squat.

    We shall see.
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    Why is Amir Not Here?

    Because he is here
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