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    Default WOW! Didn't See This Coming...

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/basket...ketball-worlds

    too bad, he was having a stellar game up to that point...

    so, is this the beginning of the excuses for what goes wrong with jose THIS year?
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    Poor Jose, again bitten by injury bug. Hopefully he will be fine for the training camp ...

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    didnt look that serious, and doug smith said it wasnt that serious
    the backlash of this will be his trade worth, for sure it will go down again coz it just re-affirmed his hamstring issues.

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    He'll be back before October I think. He's a strong lad, will work hard to recover.

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    gimme a break!
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    This could be a blessing in disguise.

    This injury which doesn't appear to be major should keep him from any more of these European summer games which do nothing but tire a player out for the NBA grind. increase his risk of injury during the season because of playing all those minutes and don't really improve his game against NBA starters.

    Besides this injury almost guarantees a Team USA gold in the 2010 FiBA World Tournament Sarcasm.

    But seriously, Spain without Pau and Jose is at least a bit weaker than with them.
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    This could be a blessing in disguise.

    This injury which doesn't appear to be major should keep him from any more of these European summer games which do nothing but tire a player out for the NBA grind. increase his risk of injury during the season because of playing all those minutes and don't really improve his game against NBA starters.

    Besides this injury almost guarantees a Team USA gold in the 2010 FiBA World Tournament Sarcasm.

    But seriously, Spain without Pau and Jose is at least a bit weaker than with them.
    This could also be bad for team USA. Cause this only means that Rubio will have to play more minutes. Uh oh. :O HAHA

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    This could also be bad for team USA. Cause this only means that Rubio will have to play more minutes. Uh oh. :O HAHA
    His is young. He can handle the minutes.
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    His is young. He can handle the minutes.
    Rubio is better than the PGs in team USA. He'll destroy them with his court vision :P

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    Doesn't this basically kill any trade value that he might have had?

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    Default Jose Got Hurt: Out for at least 4 Weeks

    It seems like Raptor fans can finally put aside the Jose trade rumors/ scenarios to rest and move on with their lives. Jose is Out for at least 4 weeks ( I fear it is worst given the history of Spanish Basketball Federation and ... ). There is one thing harder than trading an over paid no defense PG in this league and that is trading an injured , over paid, no defense PG.



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    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/08/23/c....ap/index.html

    MADRID (AP) -- Spain point guard Jose Manuel Calderon will miss the basketball world championships after hurting his leg in an exhibition against the United States.



    Tests Monday revealed the Toronto Raptors player tore a muscle in his left leg in Sunday's 86-85 loss. Calderon had headed to the locker room late in the game. He went scoreless with three assists.
    The Spanish federation says Calderon needs four weeks to recover.
    The 28-year-old was part of Spain's 2006 world champion team and won Olympic silver two years ago in Beijing.
    Calderon says "there is not much to say. It's a pity I was injured at the last minute."
    The world championships run from Aug. 28-Sep. 12 in Turkey.


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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Doesn't this basically kill any trade value that he might have had?
    i can think of a few other things that 'kill' his trade value...
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    Rubio is better than the PGs in team USA. He'll destroy them with his court vision :P
    I am not sure that he is better in every aspect of his game than the Team USA PGs.

    However, it appears to me that he is better at passing than the Team USA PGs.

    Based upon the current roster before the cut to 12

    Rondo is a better defender though Rubio is pretty good. I want to see him in the NBA before upgrading that

    Rose is a far better scorer than Rubio

    Westbrook has a better all around game than Rubio

    Right now I would them

    1. Westbrook
    2. Rondo
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    Quote insight_tor wrote: View Post
    Poor Jose, again bitten by injury bug. Hopefully he will be fine for the training camp ...
    what the hell do you mean poor jose?please.

    jose brang this on himself. poor us for not trading his sorry ass. i'm tired of him constantly getting injured form these world cahmpionships just retire from inter. play.

    steve nash did it and we got over it, so spain can get over they already have ricky rubio they don't need jose.
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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Doesn't this basically kill any trade value that he might have had?
    There is not absolutely no chance that Jose will be traded. He is out till Oct and who in their right mind, will invest 30 million on a player who is injured unless Raptors sweeten the deal with some 1st round draft picks.

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    Doesn't this basically kill any trade value that he might have had?
    Excellent point.

    This might mean that Calderon might not get traded if at all until after the season starts.

    This injury could be one of the best things that has happened to the Raptors so far this summer.

    I think that the NBA Trade karma is against the Raptors trading Jose at least this summer.

    1. Charlotte trade falls through
    2. Jose gets injured in an exhibition game

    Maybe trading Jose this summer was just not meant to be despite what some posters here have been saying.

    We shall see
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    I am not sure that he is better in every aspect of his game than the Team USA PGs.

    However, it appears to me that he is better at passing than the Team USA PGs.

    Based upon the current roster before the cut to 12

    Rondo is a better defender though Rubio is pretty good. I want to see him in the NBA before upgrading that

    Rose is a far better scorer than Rubio

    Westbrook has a better all around game than Rubio

    Right now I would them

    1. Westbrook
    2. Rondo
    3. Rose
    4. Rubio
    X. Calderon
    Rubio is a great defender. I've seen him play for Barcelona, can guard his man really well because he is both big and fast. His hands are like WOO. HAHA. He can't shoot very well, but will get the open buckets. And he's quite streaky, like he can make jump shots after jumpshot. But, not very often. His passing and IQ is a million times better than most PGs in the entire NBA.

    My list:

    1. Rondo
    2. Rubio
    3. Westbrook
    4. Rose

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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Doesn't this basically kill any trade value that he might have had?
    I was going to say the same thing. Jose getting hurt just reaffirms that Colangelo is likely done dealing for this summer and right now the roster is set.

    Another thing too is that we now have to listen to people make excuses for Jose this season and why he underachieved. It'll be the ole injury blame game like it was a couple seasons ago.

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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Excellent point.

    This might mean that Calderon might not get traded if at all until after the season starts.

    This injury could be one of the best things that has happened to the Raptors so far this summer.

    I think that the NBA Trade karma is against the Raptors trading Jose at least this summer.

    1. Charlotte trade falls through
    2. Jose gets injured in an exhibition game

    Maybe trading Jose this summer was just not meant to be despite what some posters here have been saying.

    We shall see
    I agree. everyone knows that Jose is a liability on defense, but weve seen in the past that he is willing to do everything for the team to win, be it come off the bench, do less scoring more passing, be the official gatorade distributor during halftime, anything! ive said before he's definitely not a bonafide starting PG, but he has great great chemistry with Amir and DD off the break and can definitely shoulder the 2nd unit. and you know with his personality, he's never gonna be a problem in the locker room. i think the reason why he clashed heads with turk is because turk wanted to play more the way he wants to, rather than be a contributing factor to team play, and maybe jose took offense to that. but hopefully, it all works out for jose and the raps.

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