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    Default Chris Bosh Thinks Loyalty Has No Place In Free Agency

    Well, here goes Chris Bosh again, talking too much and thinking too little.

    SI.com: What place should loyalty have in free agency, from the perspective of the team and the player?

    Bosh: It should have none. Loyalty is an added bonus. It's great that some guys want to be loyal, but you can be unhappy trying to be loyal, and there's no reason to bring loyalty into the business room. It's like if you try to buy something from your friend for five bucks and then find another guy is selling the same thing for four, and your friend wants to know, "What about the loyalty?" And you're thinking, "I don't want to spend five dollars."

    People have to look at it as a business. Fans get very wrapped around it because it's a sport. And sports are a little different but they're businesses first and that's how we have to choose sometimes. Sometimes people understand, sometimes people don't.
    Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-264480

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    It's just a dollar! Jesus, Bosh.. Why are you so cheap! You're a millionaire!

    Okay, that may not be his initial point.. Most people WOULD rather help their friend out, in my opinion, just to be clear.

    Bosh is just trying to make it sound like he knows what he's talking about, nothing's changed. I'm officially done reading any news Bosh related.. It's become a little too much at this point.

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    Seriously, his agent should give him a better script or atleast ask Bosh to try and make something out of his interviews. He's so full of crap it's crazy. "I don't want to spend the $5" omg.

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    he's right, loyalty has no place in free agency...

    but he's a douchebag for not giving his buddy $5... its a god damn dollar more.. support your friend.

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    It's like if you try to buy something from your friend for five bucks and then find another guy is selling the same thing for four, and your friend wants to know, "What about the loyalty?" And you're thinking, "I don't want to spend five dollars."
    except it's the nba, and instead of you paying someone a dollar more they were paying you 30 MILLION MORE!!!

    and you still left. so, honestly bosh just stfu before you get yourself into anymore shit, oh wait you already have with that documentary about free agency you made that si going to be released, what are you going to do next, right a tell all book?

    honestl,y i think bosh is going to be kicked out of the nba because he won't stfu.


    we're all done with bosh and i don't want to a single thing about bosh unless it's in the nba forum.

    unless it's someone bashing the f-luck out of him.
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    Well spoken, Mr. Bosh; perhaps loyalty has nothing to do with business. And I don't hate you for choosing to play for the better team. However, while we're making analogies to deals between friends, how about this one:

    It's like if you try to buy something from your friend for five bucks and then find another guy is selling the same thing for four, and your friend wants to know, "What about the loyalty?" And you're thinking, "I don't want to spend five dollars." However, I'm also thinking, "Geez, maybe I can find a better deal than four dollars. Or, maybe, when I approach the other guy about the four dollars, he'll refuse me because I'm not as great a customer as I seem to think I am. Hey, I know, I'll seek an even better deal while, and I'll mislead my friend into thinking I'm interested just in case nobody else will sell to me for cheaper."

    At the same time, it's in your friends best interest to know NOW whether or not you're going to make the purchase, because while he's waiting for your answer he's unable to use his best assets to market to other people. And because you're such an attention-whore, and you love the drama involved in the whole process, your friend gets screwed when you tell him, at the last minute, about your pre-conceived decision to buy from the other guy. Meanwhile, your friend's product has expired during the wait, and he ends up with nothing.

    Sound familiar, Bosh?

    Obviously if Colangelo and the Raptors felt the same way Bosh does regarding loyalty, Bosh would have been traded at the first opportunity, and I'd be satisfied.

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    Quote noxleno wrote: View Post
    Well spoken, Mr. Bosh; perhaps loyalty has nothing to do with business. And I don't hate you for choosing to play for the better team. However, while we're making analogies to deals between friends, how about this one:

    It's like if you try to buy something from your friend for five bucks and then find another guy is selling the same thing for four, and your friend wants to know, "What about the loyalty?" And you're thinking, "I don't want to spend five dollars." However, I'm also thinking, "Geez, maybe I can find a better deal than four dollars. Or, maybe, when I approach the other guy about the four dollars, he'll refuse me because I'm not as great a customer as I seem to think I am. Hey, I know, I'll seek an even better deal while, and I'll mislead my friend into thinking I'm interested just in case nobody else will sell to me for cheaper."

    At the same time, it's in your friends best interest to know NOW whether or not you're going to make the purchase, because while he's waiting for your answer he's unable to use his best assets to market to other people. And because you're such an attention-whore, and you love the drama involved in the whole process, your friend gets screwed when you tell him, at the last minute, about your pre-conceived decision to buy from the other guy. Meanwhile, your friend's product has expired during the wait, and he ends up with nothing.

    Sound familiar, Bosh?

    Obviously if Colangelo and the Raptors felt the same way Bosh does regarding loyalty, Bosh would have been traded at the first opportunity, and I'd be satisfied.
    I love how you made Bosh's "philosophical" simile actually make sense, against him. HAHA. Love it. +1

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    Sooo Miami ended up bargaining to get Bosh? I agree with everybody that Bosh pretty much needs to keep quiet, he's a bball player and nothing more. However, I think fans fail to realize that its a two way street. How many owners truly have deep loyalty for the players? I bet if you did a analysis of the "bad" loyalty of the Owners Vs Players, the owners would be shittier hands down. Can we stop hating on Bosh though! Yeah he talks allot and seems narcissistic, but ultimately what it comes down to is that we have seen him reach his personal best in Toronto with minimal success, with teams that weren't that bad. We NEEDED a change in makeup! It just goes to show the irrational, cynical thinking of T-Dot fans and how you people just need to be mad at something to be happy. Lame.

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    I love how you made Bosh's "philosophical" simile actually make sense, against him. HAHA. Love it. +1
    Loyalty does not have a place in free agency Mr. Bosh, but burning bridges of your previous organization and deception are no way to go in free agency. Tell that also to your friend LeBrick. You guys are paid millions and you can not show some classiness with it. smh. .

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    Bosh would be amazed at how much loyalty is part of the business world.

    Companies will often pay extra for equal quality or even sometimes slightly inferior quality if if meets their minimum quality requirements, because of loyalty.

    Why?

    The guy/company who you are paying more to realizes this and will work harder for you to maintain that loyalty knowing that that is what keeps you coming back. If there is a shortage of something that they are supplying to you, they will often make sure that you get the quantity of something that you need because of your loyalty.

    There are also often numerous "soft dollar" benefits that accrue to someone by being loyal.

    In this instance Bosh does not know what he is talking about.
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    Yeah, he's so full of crap. He's just trying to get the media attention, but someone should stop him, before he loses ALL credibility in the ENTIRE LEAGUE.

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    it'd be awesome if everyone in the ACC would start whipping loonies at him.

    like they do to strippers in manitoba.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    it'd be awesome if everyone in the ACC would start whipping loonies at him.

    like they do to strippers in manitoba.
    LOL I really like this idea, the loonies could be giving to some charity after. I could see it now, one of those rupaul pics on the jumble screens and 50 cents "I'll whip ya head boy" sound track playing as loonies rain down on chris bosh's head top

    seriously tho, the more he talks the more I am glad he doesn't play for this team anymore. its not that I don't understand where he is coming from, its that I don't agree at all with it and the way he has conducted himself after wards makes him look very bad.
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    Bosh needs to shut it up and realize that no matter what he says for the rest of the summer, it's not going to erase the bad feelings people hold in Toronto and the negative publicity that the South Beach trio have received. He seems a little hurt that fans are portraying them in the villains role and keeps trying to justify it, but he ends up making himself look like a bigger toolbox in the meantime.

    He thought this was going to be his big chance to break into American market and expected most fans to treat them like heroes, but since it hasn't happened we are treated to this.

    Also, his attempts at philosophy are pathetic. The $5 analogy was so cringeworthy that I actually feel bad for him that he thought it made sense. I bet when he said it his head he thought it was brilliant.

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    BC should release some of his & Bosh's taped conversations/"promises" made.

    If that is Bosh's sensibility regarding the matter of remuneration in free agency why could he also not have the position that he would not have any loyalty to the org. and team when it came to pushing himself to play because he might further injure himself and jeopardize the large payday.

    Re the analogy, it is not apt in his case because Toronto offered him a max. extension and he refused. If he thinks he's got an ironclad deal with Riley to stay in Miami for the next 6 yrs. he should think again. Riley & Ariston are the biggest sharks in the business.

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    Bosh is turning into such a f'ing doosh right before our eyes.

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    Bosh turned into a douche when he made those ignorant and classless comments about the city. Now he's just added more doucheness upon himself for continuing to make comments that basically disrespect the Raptors organization and all the fans that supported his sorry ass. Now, any Raps fans left out there that won't boo him this season need to give their head a good shake.

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    Wow, this Just makes me glad that he didn't resign. I feel that Toronto dodged a bullet with him. I mean if he had stayed it obviously would have been for the money (apparently to bosh every dollar counts), and then probably would have pulled a VC once he saw how much fun miami was having.

    As for Booing Bosh. I agree that he deserves it (During the game), maybe even a Ru-Paul chant when he's on the line, but when he's first introduced he deserves some sort of ovation. Simply put he deserves one. Once thats out of the way then we can let the hate flow.

    But Hedo Should get Boooed every time he's in canada. I'm all for shouting Ball every time he shoots.

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    If you ever wonder why athletes give boring bland answers and have media training up the wazoo to make them sound like a cross between Sidney Crosby and Tiger Woods, this is the reason why. There's no loyalty in sports, both for the fans, management and players. I can't understand why people get so offended by what he says, he's just talking the truth. I noticed no one minded when Hedo was 'disloyal' to Orlando or Jarrett Jack was 'disloyal' to Indiana or even Kleiza to Denver (in fact, I think Kleiza's quote was "This is where I want to play, I don't want to go to Denver. I hope they don't match"). And if we're releasing any tapes, I would LOVE to hear the conversations between the GM and Calderon when last year. Or even The GM and Bellinelli.

    Look, I know it sucks right now. The best player left and is parading around, seemingly drunk on getting fame, because you know, all 25 yr olds would act mature in that situation. But he didn't do or say anything wrong. He gave an honest answer, something that The GM, considering he's traded many of player and cut many a coach (remember Sam Mitchell?) can probably identify with. This team is going to be bad (like historically bad), but there's no reason for anyone to play the scorn girlfriend and say stupid things like "I'm glad we are rid of him, we dodged a bullet" (remember this when the Raps are 5-18 and getting their asses kicked by whomever because they don't have anyone that can carry the offence or get rebounds). Isn't it sad that there are FOUR players currently in the NBA (Carter, McGrady, Hedo, Bosh) that we, as a fanbase, feel that we've been wronged by them and that we should boo them? And for what? Because they saw the ship be sinking and wanted to get off? Because some played for a organization that doesn't give out ridiculous contracts to spot up shooters and stress winning? Because they all went to better situations? If you were a basketball player, would YOU want to play here in these conditions with fans that would boo you because you dared to say something completely not positive?

    If you feel hurt or think that what Bosh said wasn't fair, then fine, I obviously can't tell you how to feel, but you then can't tell Calderon or Evans to suck it up and not get affected by the near trades because they are paid a lot of money and they have to give full effort or talk about trading anyone because you think they suck or not resigning them because they are old. It's a business. Yes, unfortunately, the fans get the short end of the stick, but at the end of the day, like Seinfeld says, we're just cheering for laundry.

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    Quote DirtyMikeSeaver wrote: View Post
    If you ever wonder why athletes give boring bland answers and have media training up the wazoo to make them sound like a cross between Sidney Crosby and Tiger Woods, this is the reason why. There's no loyalty in sports, both for the fans, management and players. I can't understand why people get so offended by what he says, he's just talking the truth. I noticed no one minded when Hedo was 'disloyal' to Orlando or Jarrett Jack was 'disloyal' to Indiana or even Kleiza to Denver (in fact, I think Kleiza's quote was "This is where I want to play, I don't want to go to Denver. I hope they don't match"). And if we're releasing any tapes, I would LOVE to hear the conversations between the GM and Calderon when last year. Or even The GM and Bellinelli.

    Look, I know it sucks right now. The best player left and is parading around, seemingly drunk on getting fame, because you know, all 25 yr olds would act mature in that situation. But he didn't do or say anything wrong. He gave an honest answer, something that The GM, considering he's traded many of player and cut many a coach (remember Sam Mitchell?) can probably identify with. This team is going to be bad (like historically bad), but there's no reason for anyone to play the scorn girlfriend and say stupid things like "I'm glad we are rid of him, we dodged a bullet" (remember this when the Raps are 5-18 and getting their asses kicked by whomever because they don't have anyone that can carry the offence or get rebounds). Isn't it sad that there are FOUR players currently in the NBA (Carter, McGrady, Hedo, Bosh) that we, as a fanbase, feel that we've been wronged by them and that we should boo them? And for what? Because they saw the ship be sinking and wanted to get off? Because some played for a organization that doesn't give out ridiculous contracts to spot up shooters and stress winning? Because they all went to better situations? If you were a basketball player, would YOU want to play here in these conditions with fans that would boo you because you dared to say something completely not positive?

    If you feel hurt or think that what Bosh said wasn't fair, then fine, I obviously can't tell you how to feel, but you then can't tell Calderon or Evans to suck it up and not get affected by the near trades because they are paid a lot of money and they have to give full effort or talk about trading anyone because you think they suck or not resigning them because they are old. It's a business. Yes, unfortunately, the fans get the short end of the stick, but at the end of the day, like Seinfeld says, we're just cheering for laundry.
    well said sir. i think you and sleepz pretty much want to say the same thing, its just that you say it with class and sleepz, um, well, id rather not say.

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