Interestingly enough, that's 2 spots behind Roy Hibbert.
Interestingly enough, that's 2 spots behind Roy Hibbert.
even hibbert is ranked higher. sad that the player many have been fooled into thinking was our most talented is in the same range as nenad kristic, nock collison, and brendan haywood.
They may be correct on him but they are wrong on DeRozan, Johnson, Davis and even Weems to a certain extent. Since the Raptors last season were not on national TV other than NBA/TV a couple of times a lot of these writers have probably seen Davis play more when he was at NC than they have seen DeRozan, Johnson and Weems play while with the Raptors.
However they have all seen Bargnani by now since the Raptors did make the playoffs with Bargnani playing and also because he plays all over the world 12 months of the year.
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Buddahfan what a fool you prove yourself to be over and over. " Of course they're right on Bargnani but not on all three or four of your boys especially the one who has never played more than 17 minutes per game but is the best all around player on the team right!"
Bargnani is our BEST player and NOW that he is the focal point of the team he will further prove to fools like you that he is just that...This piece of shit article is just another American bias piece towards a very talented Euro who is playing on the only Canadian franchise left in the NBA.
did you enjoy that ass-whippin he got from the Montenegrins ? hahahaah
he got dunked on and smacked around more than i've ever seen a player get. pecovic actually slapped the ball out of barg's hands and bargs stood there like the little punk that he is cuz he couldnt do nothin to stop it.
Last edited by vinnie_paz; Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 08:40 PM.
Um, sorry but what? The list makes very little sense. Why is Hibbert ranked higher than Bargnani anyway? He's not that much better at rebounding (and he's 7-2!!!) and fouls at a very high rate.
This list is horrible. Brendan Haywood is worse than Shaq, Hibbert, and Bargs? Really? Emeka Okafor is worse than David "I'm a pylon" Lee? You've gotta be fuckin' kidding me. Throw this shit in the trash where it belongs.
This article by yahoo is laughable. Raps fans gotta stop getting wound up in what the media has to say, as there is rarely something good. Watch Bargs to be a top 4 centre. He's got the body to match a physical game and he's starting to utilize it. Its taking him so long to develope because he's a slinger from Italy who virtually had no idea of the NBA game. Do you not think this is one of the main things they are addressing over the summer (Triano (staff), National team)? With the right tutelage, he is more then capable of becoming a ferocious defender. Not everybody has that killer instinct, allot of times it has to be learned through adversity. Great, great player who has been caught in the shadow of Bosh for way to long. He's capable of the MIP and an All-Star.
Dwyer is an idiot he ranked Wall 14th on the PG list. Guy hasnt even played yet.
And I don't agree that he has the body to be a physical defender in the post against the Shaq's, Howard's, Duncan's or any of the other big strong tough 5's in the post.
The Raps still don't have a Big man coach to show him how to really play the position and I don't think the FIBA game is going to make him turn around completely over the summer.
I have a lot of optimism for the Raps and Bargs game this season but I definitely take it with a pinch of realism. As everybody has mentioned in past posts on Andrea, its not even his level of effort on the defensive end that worries me sometimes but its that he is slow to read and react to plays...I honestly hope he proves me wrong though!
Last edited by ShinobiOne; Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 07:56 PM.
This list was alright I think. Also if you look at it, the thing is the projection for the following year, not last year, and he clearly thinks Hibbert is going to make a leap next year. Also, Dwyer is usually pretty knowledgable about things, and unlike most of the American writers on big sites/networks, actually watches a lot of basketball (raptors included.)
I don't know what this list is based on, but my first reaction was that Bargnani is ranked where he is because of his defense. So I checked the PER (which is very much based on offense), and surprisingly, he's ranked 27th amongst centers there.
Nazr Mohammed, Javalem McGee, Robin Lopez and Marreese Speights are ahead of him in PER.
As for that list, so far the only questionables ahead of him are Shaq and Hibbert.
he may not be a "developing player" but this is his first year with the interior offence flowing through him. Could be a flop, but more likely he'll be ranked higher than hibbert come next june.
Is Stoudemire a C for NY? Because otherwise I think Bargs is a top 2 or 3 center in the East next year.
Anyway you look at it Bargnani isn't a top 10 PF nor C in the NBA going on year 5 of his career.
its interesting how on one hand there was a thread blasting barg for his terrible defense then this article comes up and the consensus is "why is he ranked so low". not judging by the way just a observation, I personally like how we bash our own players but will not let anyone else say anything bad about them .
My opinion is yes he defense is not the greatest but he is easier to hide then bosh was. if alabi can some how will himself to be ready this year bargs may not be 18th on this list come next year.
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