Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Marco or Delfino?
Who you prefer?
Even though Marco has the "potential" to be better than Delfino but Delfino is well-rounded and better in the defensive-end
So second question, Do you guys regret not signing Delfino?
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 12:30 PM
Delfino in a landslide ...
Rebounds -- Delfino pulls down 6.3 rebounds per 36 for his career. Belinelli only averages 2.8 per 36. That's a massive difference. Delfino generates an extra 3.5 rebounds/possessions for every 36 minutes of court time for his team, that's extremely valuable, especially from a two guard.
Belinelli's inability to rebound the ball adequately is holding back his career as a shooting guard. It forces him to be far more effective offensively + defensively. Simply put, Beli isn't good enough defensively (below average but serviceable) or offensively (streaky, inconsistent) to make up those negative rebounding contributions. Especially not when he's compared to a solid wing player like Carlos Delfino.
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 12:31 PM
I would prefer to have neither running the point ideally. If I had to choose I would say its a wash overall. No, I don't regret not signing Delfino. He would have been redundant. He's also highly inconsistent.
No doubt Delfino is a better rebounder but he's playing forward for the Bucks where as Belinelli is playing the one and two here. Marco doesn't get as many opportunities.
Marco is less than half the price. Marco is $1.5M and Delfino is $3.5M. I think you get more bang for your buck out of Marco. Not mention that if you brought in Delfino you probably wouldn't have one of Jack or Nesterovic. I would prefer either one of those guys over Delfino.
Marco is a far better shooter from the field and from long range.
Last edited by Apollo; Mon Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:50 PM.
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 12:32 PM
I would rather have Delfino than Amir Johnson. I felt that Delfino would have earned a larger role in the team (more minutes) and thus had a larger impact on the Raptors than Amir has.
In truth, the Raptors have only one wing player who is average or better in his role and that's Hedo Turkoglu. Delfino would have given them a second dependable contributor on the wing which would help further solidify that wing rotation. It also would have decreased the burden on DeMar DeRozan.
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 12:55 PM
Delfino was anything but dependable when he was in Toronto or Detroit. I don;t know where this mythical "consistency" comes from...
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 01:41 PM
Off course he is not consistent in toronto.... both Delfino and Kapono have the same skills (offensive wise); they hurt each other due to "play time" wise (substitution is not consistent) but they coexist really well with each other
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 02:03 PM
Delfino's shooting was inconsistent but his rebounding + defense were consistent. His teams could rely on those contributions and have his offense as a variable.
That allowed Delfino to make a sizable amount of positive contributions on a nightly basis. On nights were he shot the ball well Delfino then became a highly effective role player. On nights were he shot the ball at an average (for him) level he was a solid role player. On nights were he shot the poorly he was a below average but serviceable role player.
In comparison, players like Marco Belinelli (rebounding, inconsistency) + DeRozan (defense, offense) + Antoine Wright (offense) have far more games were they are sub-standard role players who have a poor-to-very poor effect on games + less games than Delfino were they have a positive effect on the outcome.
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Ideally, Delfino should never be considered a dependable player ... but such is the level of talent on the Raptors wing behind Hedo Turkoglu.
Mon Dec 14th, 2009, 02:17 PM
I don't agree with that. All Kapono could do was hit threes when uncontested. Take that away and he was useless. He could hit