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    Default Record High 84 International Players in NBA This Season - Raptors Lead With Six

    InsideHoops.com | Oct. 26, 2010

    International Players in NBAOpening-night team rosters for the 2010-11 NBA season feature a record 84 international players from 38 countries and territories. Twenty-eight of the 30 teams feature at least one international player. The league set its previous opening-night record in 2006-07, with 83 players from 37 countries and territories.

    The Toronto Raptors have the most international players, with six, followed by the Dallas Mavericks and Utah Jazz, with five each. Eight teams have four international players.

    The Raptors are also the most internationally diverse team, with six countries represented: Australia, Brazil, Italy, Lithuania, Nigeria, and Spain.
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    Seems to follow the demographics of Toronto with regard to diverse nationalities.
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    Yes and none of them will be MVP,ROY,Def POY or leader of the title winning team but enjoy your precious euros and other intl irrelevant 12th men....

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    In recent years...

    Nash has won 2 MVPs.

    Nowtizki almost lead his team to a ring. He came as close as you can get.

    Thabo Sefolosha and Anderson Varejao made the all-defensive 2nd team last year. AK47 has made both the 1st and 2nd team all-defense.

    ... And this is just off the top of my head while excluding the likes of The Dream, Mutombo, Arvydas Sabonis and Vlade Dviac for example...

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    In recent years...

    Nash has won 2 MVPs.

    Nowtizki almost lead his team to a ring. He came as close as you can get.

    Thabo Sefolosha and Anderson Varejao made the all-defensive 2nd team last year. AK47 has made both the 1st and 2nd team all-defense.

    ... And this is just off the top of my head while excluding the likes of The Dream, Mutombo, Arvydas Sabonis and Vlade Dviac for example...
    are you referring to nash's canadian background or south african?
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    In recent years...

    Nash has won 2 MVPs.

    Nowtizki almost lead his team to a ring. He came as close as you can get.

    Thabo Sefolosha and Anderson Varejao made the all-defensive 2nd team last year. AK47 has made both the 1st and 2nd team all-defense.

    ... And this is just off the top of my head while excluding the likes of The Dream, Mutombo, Arvydas Sabonis and Vlade Dviac for example...
    Exactly. I still maintain that before that vomit-inducing broken leg, Garbajosa had the potential to be one of the smartest, scrappiest players in the game too. Plus looking back at legends and strong supporting players from my childhood: Bill Wennington, Tony Kukoc, Luc Longley, Rick Fox, my dutch countryman Rick Smits, and Band of Horses favourite Detlef Schrempf.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    In recent years...

    Nash has won 2 MVPs.

    Nowtizki almost lead his team to a ring. He came as close as you can get.

    Thabo Sefolosha and Anderson Varejao made the all-defensive 2nd team last year. AK47 has made both the 1st and 2nd team all-defense.

    ... And this is just off the top of my head while excluding the likes of The Dream, Mutombo, Arvydas Sabonis and Vlade Dviac for example...
    Thanks for making my point for me...Dirk couldnt lead his team to a lesser team (2006) and then proceeded to get shytted on by the Warriors in the 1st round a year later depite being a 1 seed with 67 wins,he completely disappeared in that series...as most overrated euros do when it gets physical and tough....not to say i dont like Dirk but he is not capable of leading a team to a ship....Nash is not a euro/overseas player and he is considered intl but isnt really he plays an american style having gone to Santa Clara so that doesnt work...

    and those 2 MVPs were bogus btw...

    Who else ?
    Peja ? mmmkay
    Rik Smits ? NOOOOOPE
    Kukoc ? lol
    Vlade was a flopping embarrasment to the game
    Sabonis was past his prime when he got here so who cares
    Varajeo ? see Divac



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    Dear Trife 76,

    Tony Parker, Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobli, Pau Gasol and his brother Marc, would like to speak to you outside. Something about being 12th men? I'm not sure, but they looked kind of pissed off.

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    Parker plays an american style of basketball,Dirk is a choker,Manu is south american..Pao Gasol is a soft big man who piggybacked Jack Bauer 24 to 2 rings,his brother Marc is a stat stuffer who doesnt protect the basket on a terrible team with an unkept beard...anything else ?

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    You guys are all forgetting the key player that brought the international scene under the NBA's attention.

    His name?

    He was known by many names, such as the "Mozart of basketball", "basketball Amadeus", "Petro", but his real name was ofc:

    Drazen Petrovic

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    It doesn't matter if they play an "american" style of basketball. They still need a basketball and they still need to get it through a 10ft hoop with or without a trapezoid key. And just because they play an "american" style of basketball, doesn't mean they'll always win. Tell that to the Gold Medalist Argentina back in 2006 (correct me if i'm wrong...) But anyway, that's beside the point at which you're making your arguement. There are a lot of talented international players out there, and yes they've won championships and received the highest accolades an individual can achieve as your fellow RR members have pointed out before you. So if you want to make a prejudice statement, then start your own forum entitled, "I.P.S. = International Players Suck" and read as you get ripped by many on here... haha...
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    Ya, it is kind of funny that any decent Int'l player someone mentions, the op simply states that they play "American" ball. Wouldn't be easier to say that any player that is decent plays "american" and any player that stinks plays "euro"? That seems like what you are trying to say. Like, "that damned Euro Banks sitting at the end of the bench collecting a paycheque!"

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    i think trife just doesnt like them funny talkin' honkies.

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Parker plays an american style of basketball,Dirk is a choker,Manu is south american..Pao Gasol is a soft big man who piggybacked Jack Bauer 24 to 2 rings,his brother Marc is a stat stuffer who doesnt protect the basket on a terrible team with an unkept beard...anything else ?
    American style basketball? Stop sounding like a racist. Basketball is basketball. You still need to put the ball in the basket to score.
    You say that Gasol piggybacked his way to championships? The Lakers wouldn't have sniffed the WCF's without Gasol. As for the younger Gasol, I'd trade anyone on our team for him. He's a monster in the middle.

    A lot of people are sleeping on Casspi - I think he's gonna be a fantastic player in years to come.

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    It's nice to see that the Raps have that international flair on their team. It equates into bigtime international prospects wanting to play in Toronto. Much like the Jays in the early 90s with their foothole in the Dominican Republic - it made players from the spanish speaking nations want to play in Toronto. In the end, it pays dividends.

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    "Parker plays an american style of basketball"

    Oh, man, you're funny, trife. Pathetic, biased, and completely unconvincing, but funny. That one quote illustrates why your entire conception is self-evidently, obviously, useless and wrong. If someone plays aggressive, they must be playing 'american-style', even if they're European. How does that make sense? Doesn't it just show that Europeans can be aggressive, and so your whole bullshit stereotyped redneck nonsense view is full of it?

    I mean, your sad-sack dissing of the Gasol brothers is funny too. It takes either a bold man or an idiot to call the second-best player on a 2-time championship team 'soft' and a 'piggy-backer'. But whatever. Keep on dissing the euros man. All you're doing is making yourself look like a bigoted tool, which is fine by me.

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Thanks for making my point for me...Dirk couldnt lead his team to a lesser team (2006) and then proceeded to get shytted on by the Warriors in the 1st round a year later depite being a 1 seed with 67 wins,he completely disappeared in that series...as most overrated euros do when it gets physical and tough....not to say i dont like Dirk but he is not capable of leading a team to a ship....Nash is not a euro/overseas player and he is considered intl but isnt really he plays an american style having gone to Santa Clara so that doesnt work...
    Nash plays an "American style"? Then what's the "European style"?

    Personally, based on what I've seen, I think you have a strong negative prejudice against international players so this discussion isn't going to go anywhere. You've already made up your mind.

    Americans aren't special, just more of them play basketball than in other countries. There's nothing in the water and they don't have "superior dna" or anything like that. Same can be said in the past about Canadians and hockey. A great, dominate player can come from anywhere just ask Hakeem Olajuwon.

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    are you referring to nash's canadian background or south african?
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    What should one really expect BC has turned Toronto into a European/International NBA experiment ever since he arrived in Town and subsequently drafted Barg's number 1 overall.

    His experiment backfired on him last season destroying a playoff caliber team as the team was split into cliques in the locker room according to media reports. Just get the best players period you don't have to match the population if your team is good, winning games.smh Marketing & bull chit 101.

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Parker plays an american style of basketball,Dirk is a choker,Manu is south american..Pao Gasol is a soft big man who piggybacked Jack Bauer 24 to 2 rings,his brother Marc is a stat stuffer who doesnt protect the basket on a terrible team with an unkept beard...anything else ?
    You do know that South America is considered not part of the USA right?

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    2 NBA teams don't have a single international player on their roster- LAC & NJ? (off the top guesses).

    Btw- I have no problem with international players as long as TO gets the best ones ie Parker, Nowitzki, M/P Gasol and so forth. Barbosa I like. Kleiza- wait and see. Calderon- no. Alabi- no. Andersen aka Aussie Up- wait and see. Bargnani- smh.

    Btw does anyone know for certain which 2 teams those are w/o any international players on their rosters?

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    Not sure how you can justify going after Alabi.

    A.) It's been clearly stated that he's a project.
    B.) It didn't cost much to get him.
    C.) He's not in a position to affect the outcome of games so who cares?
    D) How are you gauging his ability to learn and improve and how are you gauging his maximum potential? Have we really seen enough to make judgment?

    The guy I want to see in Toronto next season is AK47. He's going to be a free agent. He plays strong defense. He rebounds. He also has solid offensive skills.
    Last edited by Apollo; Thu Oct 28th, 2010 at 03:05 PM.

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