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    According to ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher, Miami Heat president Pat Riley will probably try to acquire a point guard once we get to Dec. 15 when most of the free agents from the summer are eligible to be traded. ESPN.com

    From Bucher: "Two different team executives said they expect the Heat to dangle $3 million and second-year PG Mario Chalmers to a lottery-bound team looking to shed the long-term contract of a mid-priced spot-up shooting PG. Riley's objective is to find another shooter to space the floor, a la BJ Armstrong or John Paxson in their Chicago days playing alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen." ESPN.com

    Bucher lists Toronto's Jarrett Jack and Cleveland's Daniel Gibson as potential targets. ESPN.com

    Source - ESPN Insider
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    What I know is that the Raptors probably aren't going to win anything with Jack, Chalmers or Gibson. Jack has probably peaked now... Personally I would rather seem them try and push Calderon on the Heat though. I think Gibson would fit well with what Colangelo and Jay are trying to run.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    What I know is that the Raptors probably aren't going to win anything with Jack, Chalmers or Gibson. Jack has probably peaked now... Personally I would rather seem them try and push Calderon on the Heat though. I think Gibson would fit well with what Colangelo and Jay are trying to run.
    that would be great if they could take Calderon off our hands but i dont think either will happen. Jack is a solid Pg at a good price he wont be going to the HEAT. Thats another question too which teams actually wants to deal with the Heat ? especially in the east?
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    Jack may be a "long term contract", but he's worth way more than expiring contract and underwhelming point guard Mario Chalmers. Unless the Heat have a third party involved, it makes no sense for us to gift them a PG and Bosh's best friend.

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    Haven't we got raped by Riley enough thus far?!

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    Keep Jack, send Calderon. If not, stay away from helping the Heat get any better.
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    Heat doesn't have any salaries that can match calderon's though. they're not gonna part with miller and/or haslem

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    There is no way this trade can be done without including a third team or including Miller, Anthony, or Haslem. Haslem gave up $20M to stay in MIA and not go to DEN so it would be a major slap in the face to him to ship him out.

    The salaries being sent and taken on must be within 125% plus 100K. Cash is only an incentive as it does not count towards the salary figures being exchanged.

    Looking at the salaries of MIA after Dec. 15, they are going to have a tough time pulling this off without a third team.

    Also, I thought Gibson and LBJ were really tight. I would imagine he would be a higher probability than Jack for that reason alone but I can't see CLE doing much to help the HEAT.

    With all that said, if anybody can get this done, it would obviously be Pat Riley.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post

    Also, I thought Gibson and LBJ were really tight. I would imagine he would be a higher probability than Jack for that reason alone but I can't see CLE doing much to help the HEAT.
    You mean CB doesn't get to have one of his buds on the team? Wade went to the mat for Haslem, James got Ilgauskas and some of his crew on the payroll. Is CB chopped liver?

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    You mean CB doesn't get to have one of his buds on the team? Wade went to the mat for Haslem, James got Ilgauskas and some of his crew on the payroll. Is CB chopped liver?
    they should get him powell

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    You mean CB doesn't get to have one of his buds on the team? Wade went to the mat for Haslem, James got Ilgauskas and some of his crew on the payroll. Is CB chopped liver?
    On this team, yes he is. That is what he gets for signing up to be third banana.

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    Quote CripwalkinK wrote: View Post
    Keep Jack, send Calderon. If not, stay away from helping the Heat get any better.
    Riles would never ever take a player like Calderon - must be able to defend well.

    FYI chalmers is garbage.
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    Quote charlz wrote: View Post
    Riles would never ever take a player like Calderon - must be able to defend well.

    FYI chalmers is garbage.
    Riley was in charge of the Heat when they wanted to sign Calderon, two years ago. The reason the Raptors offered Calderon what the did was because the Heat wanted him.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Riley was in charge of the Heat when they wanted to sign Calderon, two years ago. The reason the Raptors offered Calderon what the did was because the Heat wanted him.
    Just stop it !
    BC was in love with Jose,the money they threw at him had nothing to do with Miami..nobody was throwing that kind of money at him...and it was 2 yrs ago when he was a 12 and 8 player and average now he's a regressed bum with mental weaknesses..I guarantee you Bosh personally would tell Riley not to do it...thats one of the reasons he wanted to get outta here so he wouldnt have to play with him anymore in Toronto lol...

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Just stop it !
    BC was in love with Jose,the money they threw at him had nothing to do with Miami..nobody was throwing that kind of money at him...and it was 2 yrs ago when he was a 12 and 8 player and average now he's a regressed bum with mental weaknesses..I guarantee you Bosh personally would tell Riley not to do it...thats one of the reasons he wanted to get outta here so he wouldnt have to play with him anymore in Toronto lol...
    Miami was indeed very interest in Jose a few years ago. Jose was coming off a strong campaign and Riley targeted him as a perfect floor general for the Heat. He's personable, he speaks Spanish and at the time, he was coming off of his best season. They figured they could easily market him. I remember rumours swirling around that the Raps and Heat were in discussions for the #2 pick and the Heat wanted Calderon for starters in a package coming back to Miami. But in the end, I believe the Heat asked for something outlandish and ultimately, talks broke down.

    So, he was coming off an average season, was he? He was 5th in the league in assists per game only behind Paul, Nash, Deron Williams and Kidd. He was 5th in the league is assists percentage behind the same players and was second in offensive rating. He also shot 91% at the free throw line and averaged in excess of 11 points per game. He also had the best assist to turnover ratio in the league. Yup, he was certainly coming off an average season. I think maybe it's you the one that should stop it.

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    I dont care if we end up half-way from no where this season DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT give that team ANYTHING to help make them better come on $3 million and mario "bench rider" chalmers? thats like offering a pylon and a half-eaten sandwich for our leader dont even try.
    And why the hell would we want to help them anyway screw em they made they're own bed now they gotta live with having carlos arroyo as a starting pg have fun.

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    There's no way a trade involving Calderon would work and there would be absolutely no point in trading Jack to them. Jack's salary isn't a problem and Jack is probably worth more on the open market than Chalmers.
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    Jack has proven he can be a leader and Chalmers seem to need a few more season to get there. I dont think this years roster can afford to loss leadership. Chalmers seems more like a shooting guard to me anyways.

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    Bosh has requested a trade back to Toronto, he will be a Raptor again by January.

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    Yeah, BC will send Jack to the Heat and his trademark sexy shirts to Riley. In exchange, BC will get Riley's secret hair products. Yummmmmmy!!!!
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