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    Quote Marz wrote: View Post
    Right I mean it's not like Jack isn't getting raped by opposing PGs too.

    The way I see it we have too much invested in both Jack and Jose. But you can't ship both of them out together unless it's a multi-way deal. And if you do that, the PG coming back doesn't know any of the plays and there will be more agony.

    Jose and Jack will stay until next season when the new CBA's wrinkles are understood.
    i'm not saying jack is the reincarnation of gary payton or anything, but he's less of a liability defensively than calderon

    i'm not even trying to hate on jose... i dig him as a player.. i actually enjoy watching him play more than jack... on the offensive end... but thats not the end the raps are losing games at.

    anytime i've watched a game and said "oh, this dude is going to blow by calderon"... they do. every single time.

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    I don't think we'll make any changes. You make changes when things aren't going as well as you hoped, or below expectations. This team is performing as well as it possibly can, with the talent that is there.

    The only way Evans or Banks go anywhere is at the trade deadline, and the only way Calderon goes anywhere is if he starts playing like he deserves starter-level money.

    The only way Triano gets fired is if we significantly worse than we're supposed to be. Kind of like when Lawrence Frank was fired when the Nets had like 5 wins after 40 games. I think we're a bad team, but not THAT bad. If we've got 5 wins after 40 games, then Triano will be fired. On the other hand if we have 10-15 wins after 40, I think Triano will be kept.
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    I don't think we'll make any changes. You make changes when things aren't going as well as you hoped, or below expectations. This team is performing as well as it possibly can, with the talent that is there.

    The only way Evans or Banks go anywhere is at the trade deadline, and the only way Calderon goes anywhere is if he starts playing like he deserves starter-level money.

    The only way Triano gets fired is if we significantly worse than we're supposed to be. Kind of like when Lawrence Frank was fired when the Nets had like 5 wins after 40 games. I think we're a bad team, but not THAT bad. If we've got 5 wins after 40 games, then Triano will be fired. On the other hand if we have 10-15 wins after 40, I think Triano will be kept.
    Frank got fired at 0-16 last season so he wouldn't go down in the NBA records books w/ most consecutive losses to begin a season.

    Triano is a MLSE company guy so if he's not coaching he will still be involved with the Rap's in some capacity as long as he wants to be in my mind.

    Btw- yes, this team is potentially as bad as last seasons Nets who ironically look better than TO this season- on paper.

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    triano can't be fired because him dropping the f-bomb in the words of brett favre "it's awesome"
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    The Raptors haven't lost one game due to poor coaching this season. Firing Triano would be pointless.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    The Raptors haven't lost one game due to poor coaching this season. Firing Triano would be pointless.
    Poor coaching decisions have definitely contributed to losses...esp last year...

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    Carlesimo is NOT the answer. Players hate his guts. All players. There's a reason Seattle ditched him. There's a reason that once Scott Brooks took over the Sonics (Thunder) began to spread their wings. There's a reason he hadn't found ANY coaching job at all until this season.

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    You guys are out of your minds. Triano isn't going anywhere. The expectations of the Raptors coming into the season were ultra low so even if the Raptors only get 20 win he's not going to be fired.

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Poor coaching decisions have definitely contributed to losses...esp last year...
    His rotations have been questionable at times. That's about it. But it's impossible to make completely fair and unbiased coaching decisions when you have so many outside forces breathing down your neck.

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    I love Evans Dr. Jekyll as of late. What team would not want this effort off the bench? Evans value is the best you could expect right now. Once Ed Davis is healthy see how he fit's with the Starters.

    Jack, DeRozen, Kleiza, Davis, Andrea (Jack Starts, Jose closes)

    We aren't going to win much anyway this year. So lets throw the Eddy in the Fire like DeRozen last year. Give him starters minutes & experience to develop him for next season. I'd like to see what we could get out of Ed. Showed some promise in Summer League. He needs to bulk up. I'm sure he will these next couple years.

    So trade Evans, (SORRY REGGIE!) get what you can, draft pick/cash, and give more time to Ed & Amir.

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    Quote Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Poor coaching decisions have definitely contributed to losses...esp last year...

    he has made good coaching decisions, like putting wright in the game and going to zone defense which shut down the lakers for a extended period of time.The fact that he made that move before going into the half showed me that he knows what he is doing. I would tho like to see him take more control over the offense plays being run he lets these guys choice which plays to run too much. A point guard has to earn the right to call the plays on the floor jack or calderon have not done that.

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