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Post the evidence that says the Bulls were going to take Bargs at #2 ?
If not its BS hearsay like everything else....When you had most of the GMs saying he was virtually unknown thats an unlikely story....I do rememmber it was reported they were high on Aldridge.....
and Bargnani doesnt have the tools to be an all star in any conference until he rebounds..no coach is going to pick a big man in that game with poorous rebounding numbers when you have guys that will have 12/10..15/10 stat lines....Only shot he will have ever have is if he averages 30 PPG or is top 5 in the league at scoring in Feb and thats a pipedream....
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JalenRose5 wrote: View PostI"m pretty sure he would be the best player on our team. We all know Colangelo doesn't know how to draft players or sign them! so why not bring in Arenas? We actually have someone who can take over a game and win it for us in the fourth!
In Washington, all eyes are on John Wall now, there's no need for Gilbert Arenas! we traded for jermaine o'neal who was due 42 million for 2 seasons way past his prime!! Yet no one cared!
Bring Him to Toronto! We're just gonna waste our draft and trade exception on someone useless anyways knowing Colangelo!!
'95 Michael Finaly
'96 Steve Nash
'97 Stephen Jackson
'99 Shawn Marion
'02 Amare Stoudemire
'03 traded for the draft rights to Barbosa
'04 Luol Deng (then traded as Sarver traded many first round picks due to not wanting to pay guaranteed contracts)
'06 AB
'09 DD
'10 Davis
Then there are the many trades he has made. He usually comes out better.
Regardless of drafting or trading, you can't win them all. However if you look at his history I would certainly say he makes many more good decisions than poor. Here is his history:
http://hoopshype.com/general_manager..._colangelo.htm
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I agree with you I am falling for the names alittle and the contracts aren't the greatest,
but right now we're paying 18 million per season at the point and getting smoked.
I feel Arenas more than Baron still have game. Baron did thrive in golden states uptempo offence and both players would be motivated by the change.
two years left on baron contract is better then four on calderon.
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I can see BC swinging for the fences as usual. The only thing is that why would a rival GM help another GM. I mean they scored with Wall but if Gil stays where he is, the Wizards will be literally handcuffed for years. I mean, they can't even make minor moves. The TPE is not big enough for his salary. He's a good player but he is a nutjob. He can still play but if things are left the way they are, we don't need to help Washington. We just need to mind our business. Maybe Charlotte or the Knicks swing something for Gil, I just don't see the Raps doing it, even if the price (whatever that means) is right.
A normal "new" Gil and DeMar could be an interesting backcourt tandem. We're all allowed to dream right? Also, I can see Gil coming if they're trying to develop Barg's inside game. But he's a perimeter player and we don't need another perimeter guy to stretch the floor.“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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peanutplaza wrote: View Posthaha nice.. thanks i did invest in silver
come on baron is only 31.
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Trife76 wrote: View PostPost the evidence that says the Bulls were going to take Bargs at #2 ?
If not its BS hearsay like everything else....When you had most of the GMs saying he was virtually unknown thats an unlikely story....I do rememmber it was reported they were high on Aldridge.....
and Bargnani doesnt have the tools to be an all star in any conference until he rebounds..no coach is going to pick a big man in that game with poorous rebounding numbers when you have guys that will have 12/10..15/10 stat lines....Only shot he will have ever have is if he averages 30 PPG or is top 5 in the league at scoring in Feb and thats a pipedream....
Hollinger showing how good Bargnani actually was
Chad Ford also thinks Bargnani is the "real deal"
This is SI's mock draft
Another Mock Draft
NBAdraft.net also thinks Bargnani was going 1st
The only draft site which didn't project Bargnani going first was Scout.com who projected him 5th
Unless a player isn't considered to be "able" to be first overall pick, they don't get all this media exposure. You can't find evidence that any team is going to take a certain player unless it's a 100% like Griffin, Wall, LeBron, Yao etc..
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MangoKid wrote: View PostSo, with the skillset Andrea has being a 7-footer and him currently being 7th in the NBA in scoring, Colangelo doesn't know how to draft?
Please try again.
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JalenRose5 wrote: View PostWhen you say skillset I hope your joking? Like his amazing rebounding prowess, his help defense, his wicked fade away jumper when posting up against a shooting guard?? Sorry Mango, I don't have to try! Who cares if a 7 footer can shoot threes?? It's not a novelty anymore, it's a requirement! And who cares if he's seventh in the league for scoring, What the hell is their record????
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Matt52 wrote: View PostYour posting priviledges should be banned. Lets look at BC's draft history:
'95 Michael Finaly
'96 Steve Nash
'97 Stephen Jackson
'99 Shawn Marion
'02 Amare Stoudemire
'03 traded for the draft rights to Barbosa
'04 Luol Deng (then traded as Sarver traded many first round picks due to not wanting to pay guaranteed contracts)
'06 AB
'09 DD
'10 Davis
Then there are the many trades he has made. He usually comes out better.
Regardless of drafting or trading, you can't win them all. However if you look at his history I would certainly say he makes many more good decisions than poor. Here is his history:
http://hoopshype.com/general_manager..._colangelo.htm
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jbml wrote: View PostOutside of Orlando's flirtations, I can only claim to have heard what are best described as "rumbles of curiosity" from the suddenly starless Toronto Raptors. Wouldn't describe it as anything more serious than that, especially when the $14.5 million salary-cap exception that the Raptors created in a sign-and-trade with Miami when Chris Bosh bolted isn't big enough to absorb Arenas' salary-cap number this season. Or when Canada's strict gun laws could well make acquiring Arenas, after a felony conviction, rather complicated even if the Raps were game.
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...ork-washingtonIf Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
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I'll take him.
he's good, he's got real talent.
he's not an efficient scorer, but he'll give another scoring threat. plus he's a good passer and decente defender. also, he's got motivation.
let's face it: players worth that salary are not coming to toronto.
talent is everything, and we have too little. Derozan won't blossom in an all-star.
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Pizzaman wrote: View PostI would completely change my mind about Colangelo as it would be a completely idiotic move and B.C. would never do it, but sirchillywilly would love having a guy of Arenas character on this team
it seems to be getting to him. i don't encourage you to continue, but, i would like to see how long it take before he tells you to fuck off.
i'm in favour of bringing arenas in, it'd be his team if he played well for a few games.If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
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