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    I know it's extremely early in the season, but I have to bring this up. Who should we pick, the best talent on the board or a player we need. Next years draft will only have a few players who have the potential to be great, like Harrison and Irving and the rest are all decent players who will have "ok" NBA careers. Who would you pick if ALL the players were available (if we had no.1 pick) and what is your rank of the college and international players next year?

    Also, next year's draft could end up being the draft with the most international players selected in the lottery. Players like Motiejunas, Valanciunas and Jan Vesely could all get picked in the lottery. Yahoo! had an article about the "average" NBA Draft next year in which Marc J. Spears thinks that 4 foreign players will be selected in the top 10.

    1. Harrison Barnes, SG-SF, North Carolina freshman, 6-8, 210 pounds – Scout’s take: “He can score the basketball in bunches, really score. But can he make people around him better? He’s also a good rebounder, but he needs to improve his passing and defense. There’s a lot of work to do. He’s not a readymade player.”

    2. Perry Jones, PF, Baylor freshman, 6-11, 220 pounds – Scout’s take: “He’s very long and athletic. A lot of people say he is lazy and has a very low motor, but he does have a great skill set.”

    3. Kyrie Irving, PG-SG, Duke freshman, 6-1, 172 pounds – Scout’s take: “He’s the next Rod Strickland. One-and-done players are kind of rare there, but he’s good enough to play in the NBA next year. He’s a real true point guard. He makes tough plays and is a good passer. He’s like Chris Paul(notes), limited size-wise.”

    4. Jonas Valanciunas, PF-C, Lithuania Lietuvos Rytas, 6-11, 230 pounds – Scout’s take: “Very long and can go to the glass on both ends. Can score in transition; plays above the rim. Nice hands. Still needs to work on strength against bigger players in the post. Playing big minutes in Europe against men.”

    5. Donatas Motiejunas, PF-C, Italy Benetton Treviso, 7-0, 215 pounds – Scout’s take: “Long left-hander who can go to the post and score. Inconsistent, but can play above the rim. Like his skill set. Needs to get stronger. Could be special in time. Game more suited for NBA than Europe with his quickness.”

    6. Jan Vesely, SF, KK Partizan Belgrade, 6-11, 240 pounds – Scout’s take: “He’s having a slow start for Partizan. He’s an energy player, high-motor kid. He’s receding a little. He hasn’t produced the way a top-five pick should. He’s an above-the-rim, hustle guy.”

    7. John Henson, PF, North Carolina sophomore, 6-10, 200 pounds – Scout’s take: “He’s long with freakish arms for a 7-foot-1 wingspan. Very good ball skills. Used to be a point guard. Needs to improve his shooting and get in the weight room. He’s very thin with narrow shoulders.”

    8. Mason Plumlee, C, Duke sophomore, 6-11, 210 pounds – Scout’s take: “Good athlete who had a solid freshman year and will be better this year. He has athleticism, size, great motor, finishes around the basket and toughness. Skill set not great, but he can improve.”

    9. Josh Selby, PG, Kansas freshman, 6-1, 180 pounds – Scout’s take: “He’s a Jonny Flynn(notes)-type of point guard. High energy. He will pick up the pace of a game. Definitely likes to go to basket. He can apply a lot of pressure on defense.”

    10. Enes Kantner, PF-C, Turkey, 6-9, 250 pounds – Scout’s take: “He set a scoring record at the Hoop Summit breaking Dirk Nowitzki’s(notes) mark. Scouts saw him be a dominant player. He is a very gifted player inside, solid rebounder. He will be a good, not great player. It might help his stock that he doesn’t play at Kentucky.”
    Here are a couple of Mock Drafts:

    mynbadraft.com
    draftexpress.com

    I know it's early, but it's been a long week-end, and I'm pretty anxious on what Triano and Colangelo would do come Draft day...

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    Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too early to tell but if I had to pick it'd be Barnes. He seems like the guy with the most skill and potential in next years draft.
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    I don't think Ed has ever played with Barnes? But it would have been awesome if they had played together last year! But I'd pick Kyrie Irving. Depending on PG prospects next year :/

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...hebuzzer111210

    Supposedly 'they' are saying this is a weak draft.

    Irving would be my pick right now - that is subject to change as the NCAA season has barely started.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...hebuzzer111210

    Supposedly 'they' are saying this is a weak draft.

    Irving would be my pick right now - that is subject to change as the NCAA season has barely started.
    I posted the same link But yeah, it also depends on how many good PG freshmen are not going for the draft...

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    It's hard to tell who to pick until the season starts. If recollection serves me well Ed Davis was a top 5 pick before he got injured in college.
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    I don't care who they draft.

    However, I do know that they need a really good PG, really bad.

    Maybe this kid will work?



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    Quote hateslosing wrote: View Post
    It's hard to tell who to pick until the season starts. If recollection serves me well Ed Davis was a top 5 pick before he got injured in college.
    I don't know where he wsa ranked when he got injured but in Rivals 2008 high school class Davis was ranked 15th.

    He may have moved up after his freshman season in college.

    Was he an early withdrawal from the 2009 draft?

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    gimme some of that perry jones. 6-11 sf that rebounds like pf and can drop 3's? yes please.

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    i think barnes will be a solid pro but doesn't have the star potential jones does. plus he's already a better defender.

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    I posted the same link But yeah, it also depends on how many good PG freshmen are not going for the draft...
    Sorry about that. I didn't click on your link but thought that write up looked familiar :s

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    1.Barnes
    2.Perry
    3. Irving

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Sorry about that. I didn't click on your link but thought that write up looked familiar :s
    It's alright

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    It says Irving has a height disadvantage, but Chris Paul is 6-0 and still owns people. It will be fun to watch the NCAA go by. Maybe new people will stand out. The Raptors DEFINITELY need a PG this next year though. We can't afford not to.

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    Harrison Barnes sounds like an athletic Carmelo. No.1 or Top 5 pick, as long as that guy is on the board, we get him, we need a guy who can demand the ball, besides, we have another first rounder, our team's future looks good AS long as we pick the right players, which probably will hinder us anyways b/c BC sucks at it.

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    Quote matt wrote: View Post
    Harrison Barnes sounds like an athletic Carmelo. No.1 or Top 5 pick, as long as that guy is on the board, we get him, we need a guy who can demand the ball, besides, we have another first rounder, our team's future looks good AS long as we pick the right players, which probably will hinder us anyways b/c BC sucks at it.
    I'd much rather have a guy that is a team player then go back to superstar carrying the team.
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    I certainly didn't like reading this...

    One scout likened this year’s class to the 2006 draft, when the Toronto Raptors took Andrea Bargnani(notes) with the No. 1 pick.
    Whether or not you're a Bargnani fan, the fact of the matter is that the draft was a weak one and history may be repeating itself again. If the Raptors get a top pick in another weak draft that would be incredibly disappointing.

    That said, Harrison Barnes is the guy I like the most, from what little I've seen. He seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, too, which is important.

    I don't like what I'm hearing about Perry possibly being lazy. That's the last thing you want from your potential franchise player. I'd rather have a guy with a little less skill, but who leaves it on the floor every night.

    I'd like to see more of Irving before I pass any judgements on him.

    If Kanter's knees are good, he might be intriguing. He's a big, tough, strong center who plays both ends of the floor well and has a high IQ. I'd be very wary about his knees, though.

    I do think that Colangelo will probably not draft an International player, unless one drops. I think there's been too much backlash about that and he seems to be trying to get away from that label a little.
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    What if we traded for 2012 draft picks? We need to wait for the trade deadline, and see how the college rankings are. Because if there are more promising HS players then maybe we SHOULD trade for 2012...

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    I would take barnes, best one in my opinion.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I certainly didn't like reading this...



    Whether or not you're a Bargnani fan, the fact of the matter is that the draft was a weak one and history may be repeating itself again. If the Raptors get a top pick in another weak draft that would be incredibly disappointing.

    That said, Harrison Barnes is the guy I like the most, from what little I've seen. He seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, too, which is important.

    I don't like what I'm hearing about Perry possibly being lazy. That's the last thing you want from your potential franchise player. I'd rather have a guy with a little less skill, but who leaves it on the floor every night.

    I'd like to see more of Irving before I pass any judgements on him.

    If Kanter's knees are good, he might be intriguing. He's a big, tough, strong center who plays both ends of the floor well and has a high IQ. I'd be very wary about his knees, though.

    I do think that Colangelo will probably not draft an International player, unless one drops. I think there's been too much backlash about that and he seems to be trying to get away from that label a little.
    As long as the Raptors draft the Aldridges, Roys, Gays, or Rondos it will not be considered a poor draft class for the Raptors.

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