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    Default What does "retooling" mean ?

    Can some one please explain what this term b/c constantly uses in every interview means ?

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    Don't know what retoolling is, but I know what retooling is.

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    It's a way of saying rebuilding without actually saying the word, because the term "rebuild" scares fans and sponsors away.
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    Retooling means to add strong additional pieces to an already strong base. In BC's case the strong base consists of Bargs, DD, Amir, Jose, Jack, Weems, Reggie, etc. In most cases the strong base is often successful, but not at the point of being a champion, however, on the brink. I agree with Tim that 'retooling' is used often by BC to keep the fan base hopeful and to buy him time to fix up this mess.

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    Think of a carpenter's pouch with a decent tape measure, a good chalk-line, good serviceable pliers and a nerf hammer. Making Bargs the main offensive weapon and running the majority of plays through him is a mistake. I'd rather Dorsey get a shot at it. Andrea's really just not that good. He's reached his potential, is overpaid, has a non-challance that becomes cancerous....and his defense is just plain stupid. I was a supporter for years but my patience has run out.

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    so how can any bc supporters here still think BC is a good gm ?

    we can blame bosh, hedo, j.o., tj, marion, and everyone else all we want.

    we still dont have a young developing C or PG

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    My patience is run out with Brian also.

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    Quote Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    so how can any bc supporters here still think BC is a good gm ?

    we can blame bosh, hedo, j.o., tj, marion, and everyone else all we want.

    we still dont have a young developing C or PG
    Are there still a lot of BC supporters? He lost me but I can't think of a good available replacement. He's decent but was given too many passes because his dad is a genius.

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    How many GM's in their first four years at the helm have had great success? GM's are artists and sometimes they just need a fresh canvas. If BC was around for 10 years with constant roster turnover, and no success then I would say he sucks. What does everybody in here think that other GM's in the league think of Brian? If we fire him, do you think other GM's around the league are going to wanna jump into the pressure cooker? Fuck it, lets keep getting angry it seems to be working, and players seem to love staying in Toronto............

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    Retooling see examples of signing JO and signing Hedo instead of drafting or trading away vets for younger players which would have be called "rebuilding" (see Sacramento)

    Basically if we would have kept our picks and traded our vets we would have been a better team today then the team you see today and the last two seasons.

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    It his being a tool over and over again, especially with bad free agent signings and draft picks.

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    A new age term...no different from re-branding or re-engineering or even re-loading. They essentially have one aspect in common...the previous entity/product did not work or got out dated and we are changing it. Cpme to think of it "retooling" is the term used when changing an auto production line to "build" a new model.

    At the core, BC is also a marketing man and so is his boss Peddie (who used to sell/market toothpaste, pampers I believe).

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    Quote Nick wrote: View Post
    How many GM's in their first four years at the helm have had great success? GM's are artists and sometimes they just need a fresh canvas. If BC was around for 10 years with constant roster turnover, and no success then I would say he sucks. What does everybody in here think that other GM's in the league think of Brian? If we fire him, do you think other GM's around the league are going to wanna jump into the pressure cooker? Fuck it, lets keep getting angry it seems to be working, and players seem to love staying in Toronto............
    do you realize 99% of GM's get their jobs, b/c the previous gm f'd up and got fired ?

    do you realize how many basketball people with experience are out there just waiting for some team to give them a shot...

    do you know who john hammond is ? you like pointing out BC's EOY award so often, go check out the 2010 EOY and see how he got his start...

    the 1% is BC who got his job only cuz his dad was a billionaire and owned the team...

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    Same people that think Bryan is doing a good job and is a genius still are the same people who think bargnani is a top ten centre and all star and that kleiza was about to "break out"

    basically raptor fans that are individual fans of home players based mostly on ethnicity and race rather than anything basketball related which is also to say they are mostly some idiots....

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    Rebuilding = starting over from the bottom with new personnel and developing what you have
    Retooling = using resources thru trades and money to turnover the roster immediately and change the team within a short time frame and still compete at the same or similar levels...

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    its amazing how teams with players like:

    j wall
    b grifiin, e gordon
    tyreke, cousins
    jennings
    rudy gay, oj, m gasol
    favors, lopez

    still go through a rebuild...

    the raps who have derozan, davis, and weems, think they can just re-tool and be good....

    who the fk are we developing this year ?

    we still dont even have a young PG or C to develop...

    but hey bryan won EOY when he signed back steve nash after trading him away, and nash went on to surprise EVERYONE with an mvp year, and bryan won EOY, so WE MUST NEVER LET BRYAN GO !!
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    Quote Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    its amazing how teams with players like:

    j wall
    b grifiin, e gordon
    tyreke, cousins
    jennings
    rudy gay, oj, m gasol
    favors, lopez

    still go through a rebuild...

    the raps who have derozan, davis, and weems, think they can just re-tool and be good....

    who the fk are we developing this year ?

    we still dont even have a young PG or C to develop...

    but hey bryan won EOY when he signed back steve nash after trading him away, and nash went on to surprise EVERYONE with an mvp year, and bryan won EOY, so WE MUST NEVER LET BRYAN HIM GO !!
    Breh ur hitting em with too much truth.....dont hurt em...

    Good point about Nash signing,these bums always celebrate how he signed him and turned that team around..lets not forget he's the one who ruined em to begin with,with dumb drafting euro stiffs (Tsakalidis,Cabarkapa) and trading Kidd for Marbury....

    most overrated GM ever !

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    Quote Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    Can some one please explain what this term b/c constantly uses in every interview means ?
    "Retooling" is spin for rebuilding. He doesn't want to associate the term "rebuild" with the team because of negative view that people hold to that word. Just like how Obama won't dare use the word "depression" to explain the American economy and instead uses a new age term like "recession".

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    He basically waited til he had cap room to sign back Nash and Q Rich and had Amare back healthy that year and the truth is he still FAILED cuz he didnt recognize that team despite all its firepower wasnt a championship team cuz they couldnt play defense,it had no anchor in the middle to beat the sperms.....so at the end of the day he is celebrated for putting together an offensive team that won 50 games a few teams but had no pedigree to win anything in the playoffs cuz they werent built to win when it counted...

    FAIL !

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    "Retooling" is spin for rebuilding. He doesn't want to associate the term "rebuild" with the team because of negative view that people hold to that word. Just like how Obama won't dare use the word "depression" to explain the American economy and instead uses a new age term like "recession".
    ok but then he's still not rebuilding...

    the man is serious about re-tooling...

    you dont try to sign matt barnes, linus kleiza, and trade for diaw if you are really rebuilding...

    lets say we signed barnes...

    how many minutes would DD and weems lose? and then barnes would be gone in 2 years and we would still be stuck with the same crap...

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