done and done
bayless better play some D and peja better stay on the bench his career is done!
signing dampier will probably happen in the next few days
done and done
bayless better play some D and peja better stay on the bench his career is done!
signing dampier will probably happen in the next few days
Last edited by grindhouse; Sat Nov 20th, 2010 at 11:48 PM.
don you beat me to it lol
Because you're shooting for low mediocrity? Trading for Iguodala last year, when the Raptors wanted to make the playoffs, made sense. Trading for a 27 year old player who is vastly overpaid and has never made the All-Star team, and who would probably give the Raptors, at best, 6 or 7 more wins, giving them a lower lottery pick, doesn't make much sense.CalgaryRapsFan wrote:
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I like this trade, I have to say though, gonna miss Jack, but his last couple of games have been depressing to say the very least.
Jose starting again is never a good thing, so lets hope Bayless is the real deal.
Bargnani is asked how he gets beat on the boards.
"Being lazy maybe," he says. "That's the only reason it can be. I've got the body, I've got everything to take 10 rebounds a game. It's just sometimes I get lazy."
Maybe Bayless won't even play a game for us, and won't replace Jack because I think as Matt pointed pointed out, maybe we took Bayless to get to Thompson. The Kings offered Thompson for Teague who is also a guard, so I think they might just accept Thompson for Bayless. Plus now we have no back-up center
This is one of them new era NBA deals...where it really doesnt add value until other pieces fall into place like the TPE and eventually whatever cap space we wind up with next off season....on the surface its a sideways deal that gives virtually nothing player wise but dont really lose anything.....I still like Bayless but i think he's just a temporary piece given were going to be a top 5 lotto team next year...
I watch a stupid santa claus parade (Oakville) and have freakin dinner with friends and when I return home I find the freakin team blown-up? Well, maybe blown-up is an exaggeration, but still. I haven't had time to fully digest this trade, but my first reactions are Bayless might pan out nicely. He had some serious game at Arizona. I remember watching a game in Portland where he lit it up for like 30 points. Dude can score in bunches. Peja? PEJA? Well, I guess the Raptors suck large this year in shooting the 3 and he can help out there. But Peja? He will make Calderon's and Bargnani's defense look All-star caliber.
Thanks for your time in Raptorville Jack. Not too sorry your gone. Marcus, I hope you enjoy the pine in NO, but you did a solid job backing up the back-up. Anderson, I never really got to know you but you played pretty solidly. Enjoy NO and the highest crime rate in North America.
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I was just thinking, I read that they said Jack was a good friend of Pauls. Which should factor in in him staying in NO. But wasn't Jack also a good friend of Bosh? hhmmm
Other thing i shoulda said is although this deal makes financial sense for the raps im not confident in anyway BC will use the cap space wisely or TPE as much as im not confident he wont blow our top 5 pick again next year....
Its almost a win lose in that respect as im waiting on Colangelo to make another dumb FA signing next year and draft Kyle Singler or Mason Plumlee with the 1dst pick...
Last 2 first round draft picks weren't bad...
The Raps trade Belinelli for Peja.
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Overall, it's a good trade for both sides. The Hornets get a capable PG and someone to entice CP3 to stay in New Orleans. The Raps get a massive expiring in Peja and a very good project in Bayless. Should Bayless develop (and he should be able to get a lot of playing time here) and I think he will, he should be like Devin Harris - except a better shooter and worse defender. His playmaking skills are pretty sub-par and will look for his own shot before setting someone else up. I remember him being top-5 in a lot of mock drafts a couple of years ago. He's still only 22, so he should mesh pretty well with the young core we have now. We might have some money now to go after Marc Gasol in the off-season.
Ugh. I wouldn't do that. We got Bargnani, Davis, Johnson - and probably Dampier (or some other fodder) on the way. I do like Thompson, but I believe that Bayless is the better prospect.
Don't forget screwing their future financial flexibilty.
ed davis hasn't played a game yet...
im not saying he's trash, but how do you know he's not gona be a bust ?
put the kool-aid down and start using some logic.
PG: Bayless
SG: DeRozan
SF: Weems
PF: Amir
C: Bargnani
I want to see that lineup. So athletic.
I was just using Iguodala as an example of something more useful they could flip Stojakovic for, not saying I fully endorse a deal like that. Although, to play devil's advocate, from what I've heard there are quite a few teams interested in Iguodala, but Philly is asking for too much in return. Who knows, perhaps BC could ask for less than Philly is asking, yet still get something more useful long-term in return down the road for Iguodala than he could for just Stojakovic's expiring contract... as far as just doing a one-for-one trade and keeping Iguodala for his full contract, I agree that he's not worth the amount of cap space he'd eat up.
I know you hate BC, however, he just made a trade you were advocating for just a couple of days ago.
He dropped a longer term contract (JJ)
He dropped a player taking time away from the youngin's (Andersen)
He picked up a young player with a lot of potential and was a #11 pick just 2 years ago.
He also picked up one of the most valuable expiring contracts in the league and only used $2.2M of the TPE.
It is clear no matter what the guy does you're not going to approve.
If AI made around $9M a year I'd be all over it but he makes closer to $14 and it only goes up the next few seasons and he is really not playing well this year - even before his injury.
Dampier does not fit in to this quote:
"Acquisition of another emerging talent and the creation of additional salary cap flexibility in the coming years were the key drivers in making this deal," said Raptors President and general manager Bryan Colangelo. "Our plan of developing our existing young players and acquiring future assets remains our focus in retooling this Toronto basketball team."
I have a feeling Evans is next to go.
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