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    Default Could we get Robin Lopez for Dero?

    How many of you would take this deal?

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    I would not. Unless they give us a load of picks, and IF at the deadline Kleiza is playing really, really, REALLY badly then I would add in him and they would give us whatever expiring they have. But I would almost certainly not do it anyways. DD is our future. They are just getting along so well. Weems, DeRozan, Calderon, Johnson, Davis, Kleiza and Bargnani are a core I want in TO for the long term.

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    Seriously? NO WAY

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    I didn't actually read the post (since you're on my ignore list), but from the threads you seem to be starting your desire to criticize and trade DeRozan away is bordering on hypocritical. Haven't you constantly blasted others as being Raptor haters for doing the same thing to Bargnani? Does that make you a Raptor hater? By your definition it does. It's especially hypocritical considering that DeRozan is having a better 2nd season than Bargnani did.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I didn't actually read the post (since you're on my ignore list), but from the threads you seem to be starting your desire to criticize and trade DeRozan away is bordering on hypocritical. Haven't you constantly blasted others as being Raptor haters for doing the same thing to Bargnani? Does that make you a Raptor hater? By your definition it does. It's especially hypocritical considering that DeRozan is having a better 2nd season than Bargnani did.
    Bargs was playing 2nd fiddle to CB1, you know that as well as I do.

    DD has been a starter since day 1.

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    i think your grasping at straws bud! RL has played a combined 120 games over a span of 5 season so far........i dont think id even part with a 2nd rounder for him at this point.......

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...rs/Robin_Lopez

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    No, I don't think I'd do that trade, for a couple of reasons:
    1. Robin Lopez has back issues, and we know that back issues can be reaccuring (hello Hakeem!), so I say no, based on health.
    2. I think if we're gonna replace bargs with a new center, it has to be a real impact 5, cause that means that we're moving bargs to the 4, where we now actually have some depth.
    3. I think DD is virtually untradeable right now (with exceptions of course), as we still haven't seen exactly what his ceiling is.

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    would totally do it..... if they toss in nash and few picks, and take someone like wright, or someone else stuck on our bench......

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    1 for 1? Not a chance.

    If they included Nash, then yes.

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    Quote Aksent wrote: View Post
    1 for 1? Not a chance.

    If they included Nash, then yes.
    Man, that would be siiiiiick

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    Quote Aksent wrote: View Post
    1 for 1? Not a chance.

    If they included Nash, then yes.
    Why would we want Nash? he is just about past his use by date? Oh yeah he's Canadian, so is Joel Anthony!

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    why would you want a 36 year old steve nash with a bad back? he's got 1 maybe 2 years left. and why would you want the shitty lopez? i would contemplate brook for DD straight up but certainly not robin. there is really nobody on the suns i would take in return for DD. and why do you want to trade him in the first place? he has great chemistry with sonny and amir and bayless (by the sounds of bayless's interview), he wants to be here and he wants to win. you people are perfect examples of why idiot fanboys never become GM's

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    OK, this is ridiculous.

    First off, how fast would Phoenix hang up the phone on Toronto if they offered that for Lopez or Nash? 1.3 seconds? 0.9? Bigs take a while to develop (think Roy Hibbert or even Tyson Chandler) and Nash is the face of the franchise. If they traded DD for Nash, Phoenix fans would riot harder than fans of Arrested Development demanding their money back from Jason Bateman after watching "The Switch".

    Besides, if Toronto does do a deal, they need a dominant wing who can create their own shot. I know in the other thread, I suggested Arenas and that got a bit of a thumbs down, because as you can see by guys like Ron Artest, Rasheed Wallace, Nate Robinson and Steven Jackson, you can't win with guys that have a bad attitude oh wait you can!

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    Quote _cp_ wrote: View Post
    why would you want a 36 year old steve nash with a bad back? he's got 1 maybe 2 years left. and why would you want the shitty lopez? i would contemplate brook for DD straight up but certainly not robin. there is really nobody on the suns i would take in return for DD. and why do you want to trade him in the first place? he has great chemistry with sonny and amir and bayless (by the sounds of bayless's interview), he wants to be here and he wants to win. you people are perfect examples of why idiot fanboys never become GM's
    if chemistry alone was enough to keep players JJ would still be here... the fact is at some point DD has to show more then he is now or hes not worth keeping.... i doubt anyone on here would argue whos the better Lopez brother but DD would more likely to be traded for Robin for the mere fact that NJ would never make that trade...

    You'd also be better off Keeping crap like your last comment to yourself if u want anyone to take u seriously!

    now if we could swap DD for Derrick Favers i wouldnt be mad at all... from what ive read Avery Johnsons not overly impressed with him anyway & believe it or not but Kris Humphries has been averaging more minutes & has done pretty well too LOL
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I didn't actually read the post (since you're on my ignore list), but from the threads you seem to be starting your desire to criticize and trade DeRozan away is bordering on hypocritical. Haven't you constantly blasted others as being Raptor haters for doing the same thing to Bargnani? Does that make you a Raptor hater? By your definition it does. It's especially hypocritical considering that DeRozan is having a better 2nd season than Bargnani did.
    You sir are the hypocrite. To compare Bargnani's second season under Mitchell, off the bench one night playing 30 minutes at center, and the next playing 4 minutes, then moving him to the three because ball hog was already at the 4, is not at all the same as the way DeRozan has been handled.
    As a matter of fact DeRozan has Bargnani to thank for his starting role the way I see it, because B.C. saw how much Mitchell screwed Bargnani up, and demanded DeMar start and get minutes to develop regardless of his play and that has held true to this day or he would not be starting.DeRozan while a talented promising and developing athlete is not currently the best SG on the team, and based purely on that would be relegated to 5 or 6 minutes per game behind Weems and Barbosa.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing DeRosan coming off the bench playing against second stringers to see if he can develope his game more. Right now he is really struggling with his game and shot. Now is the time to bring him off the bench and start Barbosa. He has lost some of his confidence; let him play against second stringers and bring that confidence back and maybe back into starting!

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    Quote Pizzaman wrote: View Post
    You sir are the hypocrite. To compare Bargnani's second season under Mitchell, off the bench one night playing 30 minutes at center, and the next playing 4 minutes, then moving him to the three because ball hog was already at the 4, is not at all the same as the way DeRozan has been handled.
    As a matter of fact DeRozan has Bargnani to thank for his starting role the way I see it, because B.C. saw how much Mitchell screwed Bargnani up, and demanded DeMar start and get minutes to develop regardless of his play and that has held true to this day or he would not be starting.DeRozan while a talented promising and developing athlete is not currently the best SG on the team, and based purely on that would be relegated to 5 or 6 minutes per game behind Weems and Barbosa.
    well said dude

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    I would do it but there's no way the Suns do this and go even smaller.
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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    How many of you would take this deal?
    Funny trade given that Robin Lopez is the only legitimate big man that the Suns now have.

    They do have E. Barron and C. Frye who are both listed at 6'11" but neither one of those is a low post player, defender or rebounder.

    Why would they do this deal?

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    Quote Pizzaman wrote: View Post
    You sir are the hypocrite. To compare Bargnani's second season under Mitchell, off the bench one night playing 30 minutes at center, and the next playing 4 minutes, then moving him to the three because ball hog was already at the 4, is not at all the same as the way DeRozan has been handled.
    As a matter of fact DeRozan has Bargnani to thank for his starting role the way I see it, because B.C. saw how much Mitchell screwed Bargnani up, and demanded DeMar start and get minutes to develop regardless of his play and that has held true to this day or he would not be starting.DeRozan while a talented promising and developing athlete is not currently the best SG on the team, and based purely on that would be relegated to 5 or 6 minutes per game behind Weems and Barbosa.
    Before you start calling people a hypocrite, make sure that you are coming from a place of knowledge. Bargnani started 53 games in his 2nd season, including 40 in a row, the vast majority at center. And during that 40 game stretch he averaged 29 mpg. And Bargnani didn't play the 3 until his third season when Jermaine O'Neal was a Raptor.

    And the main reason Bargnani was yanked out of the starting lineup and his minutes reduced was because he wasn't performing and doing the things asked of him.

    Also, I'm not the one who said that you're a Raptor hater if you criticize a Raptor player, and then did it himself.
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