All jokes aside, firing Triano ain't it. For Washington, he needs to switch the starting line-up to Calderon, Barbosa, Wright, Johnson and Bargs. Trim the fat I say (Weems and DeRozan) until they understand what it means to start in this league - that means not being outplayed on a nightly basis.
Let Amir in there and see what he can do as a starting 4. F^%k rotations for now. Don't pull a Lenny Wilkens Triano, if players are not pulling their weight, yank them - or they'll yank you!!!
“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
That is what I'm talking about Balls of Steel: Don't say that you're going to yank players if they're not pulling their weight and then not do it? Since we are testing the waters, why not pull players for playing half A$$? I was never a fan of Triano and don't think he knows how and when to use his timeouts! But maybe that's just my BAD!Balls of Steel wrote:
Yes I did catch the JT tirade during a timeout...good for him. Like I wrote in another post I am not expecting much this year except one thing...a change of culture...meaning playing hard and following your assignments and evaluating the talent. I am tired of other teams coming to the ACC and treating this team like a bunch of pussies. Does anyone foul hard in the paint? (maybe Amir). And we wonder why other players dont want to come here. With the team we have (young and new) these should be minimum expectations. Lose if we must but play hard. This did not happen today...for the first time I have seen this season. And the way JT must address this is ...consequences. The guys who were yukking it up on the bench lose their starting or time priveleges. I understand that Atlanta has more talent but....
If I were a GM hoping for a top 3 pick I'd keep Triano too..
We can't win if were are one of the worst defensive teams which is what we have been under Triano. There is no doubt he knows his stuff on the offensive end but we have to play at the very least some defense. Also, he is a horrible motivator.
Peja is not worth 14.5 million dollars. That is just how much he is getting paid.
Serenity Now!
Red Auerbach himself couldn't get this team to a winning record. I can't stand this sort of reactionary shit from raps fans. Is Jay out there boxing out, or hustling back on defence, denying the ball, attacking the basket? Its not like the coaching staff isn't telling the players to do these things.
Blame to the coach if it makes you feel better about your fandom.
+1
I am blaming the coach for not living up to his words and promise at the start of the season. He said that he will take anyone out who is not showing hustle or who is not holding their own. Give someone else a chance to start and see what they can do. Sure he is not out there boxing out, or playing the game for the raps but he is drawing up the plays and is suppose to put his foot down when it's needed and he is NOT doing that. I love the Raps and always will. I believe we had a better team last year and had Triano grown some Ball$ and not let Baby Bosh & Turkey walk over him things would have been good. Change the lineup Triano!
No coach could lead this team to victory. Once again we have to look forward to next year
I'm all for dumping on our coach but if you place a heavy emphasis on Peja not playing...you get the gas face. Fan 590 announced he wouldn't play on-air hours before the game, someone posted he was out before the game on the game thread so Peja's bum knee was known publicly.
If we look at Rap coaches they weren't all scrubs before they came here: Lenny had the most wins of any coach, Kevin Oneal after he left here replaced Lute at University of Arizona, Butch is still highly regarded. Heck, even Triano gets hi props from Coach K. Smitch is an assistant coach for a former coach of the year...in NJ, but at least he can get work in the league.
The problem with this team has very little to do with coaching. Look at our list of GMs. Other than Isaiah (who destroyed the Knicks) and Babcock (who went back to his old job with the TWolves), none of them have landed on their feet after leaving the Raps. Hiring garbage GMs is a hallmark of MLSE. The more hope they sell, the less quality of player they are obligated to pay for maximum profit.
yeah, Peja was out with a knee that was injured or reinjured during practise thats why he didn't play today.
Brendan Malone-NBA Champion
Butch Carter-Great coach
Lenny Wilkens-Hall of Fame
Sam Mitchell-COY
Jay Triano-Olympic Champion
Malone's teams-expansion crap, fired for trying to win
Carter's Teams-Pretty good actually, fired for trying to takeover the franchise
Wilken's teams-Olajuon was shit, Vince was shit, fired for being semi-retired
Mitchell's teams-Garbo goes down, replaced by.....fired for wanting a better team
Triano's teams-If I told you this was an expansion team, you wouldn't be surprised. Currently dropping f-bombs and looking like a guy who's sarting to understand why smitch was pissed off half the time. In other words, gaining experince in the league, and finding out coaching a franchise with no history of winning and mediocre in house talent isn't as easy as it looked.
Bottom line, these guys can coach, but noone can win with scrubs.
Phil Jackson's teams- some of the all-time greats
Red Auerbach's teams-lead by the greatest of all-time
Pat Riley's teams-some of the all-time greats
This is going to be a long season. I imagine these posts will further degrade as the season progresses as well. The thing that pissed me off about this game is that it was boring (except for JTs interview) and lethargic. I don't mind the losing if there is some hustle. However, this team is teaching me the lesson of chill and patience. I let the bad games wash over me and enjoy the games that are entertaining.
Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
Grunwald has been asst. gm in NY for Isiah & Walsh for quite some time now.
What is firing Triano going to accomplish? Will firing Triano suddenly make Bargs a good weak-side defender? Will DeMar suddenly get a handle and a jump shot? Will Jose suddenly be able to keep anyone in the league in front of him?
The problems this team face have to do with a lack of talent, not coaching. A strong bench and a deep roster will let you steal some games here and there over the course of a season, but the quality of your starters is what consistently wins games in the NBA. Look at the Raps' starting lineup. Nobody, except for maybe Bargs depending on the team, would start for team looking to advance in the playoffs.
The best coaches are former players and people who have been around the game a long time, like Jay. And just like players, coaches need time to develop, to make mistakes and to learn and grow in their profession. So let Triano grow with the team, because he could very well develop into a top-quality coach once he's got some polished, solid players to coach instead of trying to manage a sinking ship full of holes.
i love these sacrificial lamb threads after losses.
its like a 6 year old after church getting denied macdonalds.. "you promised me macdonald and you give me taco bell!!! mcdonalds mommy!!! MMMMMMMMMAAAACCCCCCDDDDDDOOOONNNNAAAALLLLLDDDDDSSS SS!!!! I WANT MCNUGGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
He's been doing it all year. Earlier this year on a TSN national broadcast he let out the s_word and I've heard the f bomb on at least a few occasions this year.
It's getting pretty pathetic now. All of a sudden he's the tough swearing coach that can't keep his emotions in check?
I hear this guy will be avaliable soon:
What if... Blazers had drafted both Drexler, Jordan?
From 1992 Beginner's Guide to the NBA Finals, The Oregonian's special section. Published 6/3/1992.
Michael Jordan was the #3 pick in the 1984 draft, after Portland selected Sam Bowie second.
This thread is nonsense Triano is doing his best with what he has to work with! Simple as that ....even if we had Phil Jackson the Lakers coach do you really think he could do better with this type of team we have. I don't think so!!!! Until you have some talent on this team don't expect miracles!!! We have a roster that has some pieces that could add to a team and be good somewhere down the line but until we get a consistant producer on the court; don't look for any surprises!! Just think about it Reggie Evans a starter; on any other team he would be coming off the bench and playing maybe 10 or 15 min. tops. Don't get me wrong I love Reggie who gives this team heart and solid min when he is on the court but give me a break he is not the end all of NBA talent!!!
I think Triano is doing a great job. They've already won twice as many games so far than I thought they would. With the lack of talent on this team, Triano should be in the running for Coach of the Year.
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