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Young Gunz Shoot Raptors in the Claw...Again..
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Multipaul wrote: View PostSomething needs to be done, via trade, or starting lineup shuffle. These guns are shooting nothing but blanks, and put us with 1 ft in the hole before the 1st quarter finishes.
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Apollo wrote: View PostWhat if the coaches didn't throw Bargnani out there in all those games he got exposed when he was a sophomore? The Raptors invested a high choice in DeRozan and now they need to stay committed to the plan. To have so much patience with Bargnani and yet pull the plug on DeRozan would make no sense what so ever. I think DeRozan looks just as good/bad as Bargnani did in his second year.
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Apollo wrote: View PostWhat if the coaches didn't throw Bargnani out there in all those games he got exposed when he was a sophomore? The Raptors invested a high choice in DeRozan and now they need to stay committed to the plan. To have so much patience with Bargnani and yet pull the plug on DeRozan would make no sense what so ever. I think DeRozan looks just as good/bad as Bargnani did in his second year.
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Sometimes I get very impatient with the Raptors. The saving grace this year has been signs of improvement and effort. Neither were witnessed yesterday. That is very frustrating. Now, let us put that in perspective.
The OKC Thunder are widely regarded to have one of the best front offices in the NBA - most notably Sam Presti.
They also have some of the best young talent in Durant and Westbrook plus great players in Green, Ibaka, Maynor, and potentially Harden.
They had the #2 and received #5 in 2007 draft, #4 in 2008, #3 in 2009.
They FINALLY made the playoffs in 2010 after a 5 year absence - despite having all that talent.
In fact the year AFTER they drafted Durant they went from 31 wins (missed playoffs, drafted #10, Petro - who?) to 20 wins. The next season with Durant in his second year and Westbrook a rookie, they won 23 games. Durant's 3rd year and Westbrook's 2nd they won 50 and made the playoffs in the 8th seed in the west.
What is my point? Time to put things in perspective with regards to expectations.
Hustle, grit, effort, signs of improvement - yes, everynight, they are not good enough to not.
Wins? unforunately not as frequent as losses.
The media in the US have the Raptors as the worst team in the league. Many posters on this forum have us in the 6-8 seed. The reality most likely falls somewhere in the middle.
Am I saying the Raptors should tank? Absolutely not.
Am I saying expectations should be lowered? Yes - in terms of wins and losses.
Am I saying hustle, effort, and improvement should be ignored? Absolutely not. It is this last one that has me so upset about yesterday.
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Listen guys, the 2-3 spots are one of the most essential in terms of both offensive output and defensive prerequisites. Demar cannot handle the ball like a true guard, his jump shot is broken (but can be fixed), and he disappears mentally during important sequences.
Do I think he can recover- yes. Should he be a starter- if we want to win, then NO. Not yet.
Some say "it's ok he sucks cuz he's young". For those Raptors fans that want to see wins, not a bunch of D-league all stars being touted as something more than they are, that is BS. We want wins people. Hate to say it, but Demar, Sonny, Amir, they are never going to be All Stars. We have more capable 2s and 3s who can start games and perhaps allow us to win a few games.
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Mack North wrote: View PostI can't believe you hate the Raptors and Toronto so much dude!
Have you heard of the term hypocrite before? I'm pretty sure that's your face next to in the Webster's dictionary.
YOU are not only a hater of the Raptors, you are clearly a hater of YOURSELF. Go look in the mirror, cry a little, you will feel better after when you realize some things......then go here www.miamiheat.com and dont come back
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Ambidextrious wrote: View PostHow would you feel if both these guys develop into versatile complete players. You'd prolly feel like shit. Im pretty sure they can't get worse, only can improve. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I'd wait and see what the situation looks like in a few years. Patience is a virtue.
Hey Multipaul, since your so good at "analyzing" answer me this. Why is it so hard for Andrea Bargnani to grab 10 rebounds in a game? Since Reggie isn't playing anytime soon. He better get his ass on it.
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raptorsking wrote: View Postdude please stfu. what the fuck do you expect are you gonna bitch after every loss ? we lost to a way better team, our offensive execution sucks, no play are being run for demar,
we are a lottery team, theres no trade out there that can change that.
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I don't understand..why is it only the Young Onez that are responsible for the loss against Atlanta? What about Bargnani? He was pretty invisible too. The loss is on everyone. Every soundbite out there was "we lost to a better team", or "They straight out beat us in every facet of the game"
Face it. Atlanta is a better team. That's being a realist.
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Multipaul wrote: View PostStop biting my styles bro
YOU are not only a hater of the Raptors, you are clearly a hater of YOURSELF. Go look in the mirror, cry a little, you will feel better after when you realize some things......then go here www.miamiheat.com and dont come back
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MangoKid wrote: View PostWhat's wrong with you? Why must everyone who has a different opinion than yours be a Heat fan? Why do you direct them to that site? Get off of it. It's weak, bro.
Must be that you agree with me and therefore try to deflect to another topic. That is what alot of kids do when you bust them on something.
www.dwaynewade.com
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Multipaul wrote: View Posthow come in a thread about the young gunz not being good enuff for us to compete against solid teams like ATL and BOS you somehow bring andrea into the conversation?
Must be that you agree with me and therefore try to deflect to another topic. That is what alot of kids do when you bust them on something.
www.dwaynewade.com
And once again, the reference to the Miami Heat or someone on their team is weak. What does that have to do with anything?
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MangoKid wrote: View PostWhy do I bring Andrea into the conversation? Because it's you win as a team, lose as a team. No one is exempt from criticism and you can't place the blame squarely on 1 or two players, especially on this team.
And once again, the reference to the Miami Heat or someone on their team is weak. What does that have to do with anything?
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