The teacher's own 51% right? The other 49% is owned by BMO and Bell. I HATE this deal. Aren't these guys supposed to be competitors? Is this bordering on Monopoly? Or some sort of jacked up corporate structure? If Bell and Rogers are in bed over this, I need to start making foil hats. It also means they value the whole MLSE sports franchise at around 2 Billion dollars...That's crazy! What individual, or group of individuals is going to make a 2 Billion dollar play in this economy? This means we're stuck with these fools!
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostThe teacher's own 51% right? The other 49% is owned by BMO and Bell. I HATE this deal. Aren't these guys supposed to be competitors? Is this bordering on Monopoly? Or some sort of jacked up corporate structure? If Bell and Rogers are in bed over this, I need to start making foil hats. It also means they value the whole MLSE sports franchise at around 2 Billion dollars...That's crazy! What individual, or group of individuals is going to make a 2 Billion dollar play in this economy? This means we're stuck with these fools!
OTPF=66%
Kilmer Sports(Larry Tanenbum)=20.5%
TD Capital=13.5%
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DoNDaDDa wrote: View Postever heard the saying "be careful what u wish for"?
also "just look at what Rogers has done with the Blue Jays" is not a good way to start a marketing scheme LOL
AA has made it a bit easier on us but Rogers has done nothing with the jays.... unless u feel trading the best pitcher in the game away cause u claim u cant afford him....& u cant afford to build around him, then proceed to stock pile $ in a bidd to take over MLSE a good thing! LOL
The Blue Jays under Rogers had the 5th highest payroll in baseball 3 years ago, Rogers is completely willing to put the money into the team and likely will do the same for the Raps and Leafs (and likely Bills Ralph Wilson passes). They decided to shift tactics the last couple years and build through the draft and trades based on the Tampa Bay model and it has worked out huge for them. American baseball scouts are absolutely drooling over the Jays talent base and will be for years to come.
Rogers owning the Raps is nothing but good news except for television viewing.
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daveyboy wrote: View PostI'd say for you to not comment much on the Blue Jays because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. They traded Halladay away because he wanted to get traded to a team that could win the championship. Not because they couldn't afford him.
The Blue Jays under Rogers had the 5th highest payroll in baseball 3 years ago, Rogers is completely willing to put the money into the team and likely will do the same for the Raps and Leafs (and likely Bills Ralph Wilson passes). They decided to shift tactics the last couple years and build through the draft and trades based on the Tampa Bay model and it has worked out huge for them. American baseball scouts are absolutely drooling over the Jays talent base and will be for years to come.
Rogers owning the Raps is nothing but good news except for television viewing.
AA has managed to stock pile assests(Prospects) & has helped ease the pain a little but in no way shape or form did Rogers do anything good with the jays...
Id say u need to take off those Rogers(Rouge) coloured glasses.....Last edited by DoNDaDDa; Wed Dec 1, 2010, 04:56 PM.
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I hate baseball but not the Jays - If they were in ANY other division in the MLB they would have stolen the city's sports team as well as quite possibly pocketing a 'chip in the last 10 years. The Jays have had some really good teams that have been edged out of the playoff picture by the All-star payrolls of the Red Sox and the Yankees.
Really what the fuck kind of 30 team league makes every team play 162 games (the VAST majority of which are very sparsely attended) just to take the 6 divisional winners and the next 2 best teams (wildcards) to play 1 shortened 5 game series to determine the top 4 teams to play full 7 game series in the last 2 deciding rounds to determine a Champ?
In the NFL the playoff structure makes much more sense (although still annoying) since the nature of the sport somewhat dictates a limited length of games... but Baseball?!?
Anyway I don't really care who owns it as long as they let the basketball people in charge do their job with an acceptable amount of freedom.When Tom Chambers dunks an NBA player gets their hops...
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MangoKid wrote: View PostMore people are concerned what it means from a Leafs standpoint, but from a Raps standpoint, i think it'll be better. You might be able to do more things with Rogers' products to gain access to Raptors content. If you're with Bell, Telus, MTS, Aliant, Sasktel, etc, you might be screwed however.
i know cogeco,bell,rogers,,shaw. but,didn't know telus, you sure went deep into the dc providers.
rogers has denied it ofcourse, i would like a change so im for it and i heard they were going to buy the 66% owned by the teachers, the other 34% i guess would stay whatever it is now.If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
Sometimes, I like to buy a book on CD and listen to it, while reading music.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostThe more things changes the more they stay the same.
Sports in Toronto will continue to stink unless 1 passionate individual owner who cares about winning will take over.If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
Sometimes, I like to buy a book on CD and listen to it, while reading music.
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DoNDaDDa wrote: View Postactually...
OTPF=66%
Kilmer Sports(Larry Tanenbum)=20.5%
TD Capital=13.5%
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DoNDaDDa wrote: View Postthe funny part is Rogers are always complaining that there loosing sooo much money with the bluejays yet they have managed to stock pile a 1.3billion dollar war chest... i know they have other income but come on! were was this money before.... how come we are forced to watch the Jays loose out on every decent player in the league because of $ but yet they have all this cash to buy MLSE...
if this happens it will be a sad day in toronto sports if u ask me.
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Apollo wrote: View PostMost companies who make purchases or expansions aren't bankrolling the projects primarily from their own pockets, they're financed by investors. I really don't believe Rogers had $1.3B sitting in the bank waiting for a rainy day.
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big red wrote: View PostTicket prices will be flat rate up to 60 points scored by the Raptors, then a fee per point will be charged above and beyond that. If you become a Raptors fan, you must commit to them for three years. Getting bored of the Raptors or liking another team results in an early termination fee of $400. Oh and don't forget that being a Raptors fan has an extra charge of $6.95 per month for the NBA access fee.
Also, you can like the Raptors a whole lot. You can like the Raptors all the time. If you try to like the Raptors a whole lot all the time, they'll throttle your liking of the Raptors.
And be careful, being a Raptors fan while traveling will kill you with roaming fees.
The worst thing that will happen to fans is if Rogers takes over. They will find a way to gouge every last nickel and dime they possibly can. It will feel like we've been raped in the face. May Rogers die and be sent to the 7th circle of hell.Last edited by RaptorDan; Wed Dec 1, 2010, 07:55 PM.Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
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minks77 wrote: View PostNo, no, no. I hate Rogers with a passion. Rogers and Bell already own all of our cable/internet/cell phone options, SKYDOME, Bell Centre etc. You think OTPP has no interest in winning? Look at the Blue Jays and ask yourself what Rogers has done except p-off fans by switching games to premium channels IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEASON and playing to an empty stadium?
Fuck Rogers. Fuck em straight to hell. What we really need are teams of PEOPLE (ie Sarver/Cuban/Buss etc) with a passion in sports and winning to buy the team, NOT another faceless, heartless corporate entity that will bleed the "product" dry and then sell it on to the next boardroom.
BTW, Fuck Rogers.Last edited by RaptorDan; Wed Dec 1, 2010, 07:56 PM.Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
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mattscottnelson wrote: View Post"Lowering costs and raising profits" is largely an oxymoron. You spend money to make money. Buy the content, monopolize the distribution channel, improve the product, raise the subscription price. That's their business plan.
It's a far more advantageous plan for Raptors fans than the last regime: Buy the team, manufacture more seats, raise seat prices, sign a new broadcast deal, and then sell.
This is better for raptors fans. Albeit marginally, but better.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostWatching Doc pitches was the only reason I watched Jay games in the last few years, when he was shipped out I completly lost interest in this team.Joshua Priemski
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Apollo wrote: View PostYou invest wisely to make money. Most teams paying huge luxury tax amounts could make a lot of money without swinging for the fences. Take the Raptors for example. They almost always finish in the top 15 in gate numbers and do well on T.V. What they've shown is a team can make good profits while putting a mediocre product to a strong market. Are they going to find bigger net gains by spending $20M over the tax threshold and then paying $20M in tax on top of that? I don't see how and so it brings me back to my point, what are corporate executives in sports franchises working towards? A nice bottom line or a probable pop fly on a power swing accompanied by a net loss to report to the share holders?
You have to remember, a large portion of the shareholders are dedicated fans as well.Joshua Priemski
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www.RufusOnFire.com/
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