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The Nets really like Favors. I don't think they're gonna take Johnson and Kleiza for him. Hell, they've been reluctant to include him in Carmelo talks.
The Raptors have to make a move to improve the wing position. Demar, Sonny and Kleiza should all be on the the block... along with Peja and the TPE. Hopefully the Raps can bring in a starting wing, a backup (defensive/shot-blocking) centre and some draft picks.
for now, maybe the really big hole that needs to be filled is the 5. we really, really need a dominant center to man the middle.
Amir shouldn't be and isn't going anywhere.
Kleiza on the other hand, I would move him ASAP if the deal makes sense. Sonny too.
IMO we should stop play musical chairs and stop trying to get a quick fix. Just let the guys play a couple of seasons so they can properly develop and build chemistry.
Last edited by RaptorsFan4Life; Tue Dec 14th, 2010 at 01:52 PM.
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Weems out, Wright in. Please!!! I know that the thread is about summer signings. I like Kleiza and no one is going to take Amir at this rate. Amir's been in the league for 5 years, if he doesn't get it now, he'll never get it. Let the Mayo fever begin. If the team is rebuilding, then the musical chair game need to continue.
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I wouldn't trade Johnson. The guy is not a starter but he is a great first big off the bench.
I believe it was Buddah who started a thread after Evans went down and Dorsey started that said something to the effect if 'Johnson doesn't start he is going to go out there and pick up fouls' (not exact quote).
Well, the last few games he has started with mixed results. The last 2 have shown exactly why he can't start - 2 quick fouls in each game.
i guess what should be said is that they have an opportunity with the Raps to be aggressive but it seems theyre not taking advantage of it. i think next year will be very critical for demar, sonny, amir because this type of excuse will not apply to them anymore.
i agree, let the guys play it out this season and keep the core intact.
i think with kleiza, he's now seeing that his game may not fit the raps current system. i dont know what it is but he seems lost there are times. when he's on the floor with demar and bayless, its a running game and he cant seem to catch up. when he's on the floor with bargs, he doesnt get the ball that much because it goes to bargs. i think what they need from him is to be a sort of quick first step type guy who can create his own shot and make plays when needed. i dont think he's capable of that....
The only players who should be on the block are those with inflated contracts. Prospects like DeMar DeRozan should be kept. If they're going to do a rebuild and trade players away who have not been given due process then I'll be ready to tune out because anything else would be a waste of time....
You don't draft a guy high, tell everybody he's the future and then deal him one year later without giving him a chance. It makes no sense.
Last edited by Apollo; Tue Dec 14th, 2010 at 03:25 PM.
The problem I see with this team is that nearly everyone wants to score, but not a lot of people want to do much else. We brought in Kleiza to be a scorer, Barbosa to score off the bench, we expect Sonny to score over 10 points, we want Derozan to avg 15, and based on Amir's contract we want him to at least try to get a 10 pts and 8-10 rbs, we want Bayless to become a better option off the bench and one day as a starter. Oh and Bargs is still expected to be our top scorer.
Every good team has role-players who do things besides trying to score. The only guy we had doing that was Reggie, and when he was playing it was working quite well for this team. Now we have a similar player in Julian Wright, who should come in to play hard-nosed defense, and Jose who's always tried be a facilitator more than a scorer. And that's what we need on this time, we need guys like that who will do the other things necessary.
Don't get me wrong, people should still score, but there seems to be an emphasis on everyone trying to get a lot of points. We need Weems to go back to being a better defender and making the occasional shots, we need guys like klieza to only score in certain possessions, and if Bargs isn't hot, he needs to learn to play on the defensive end as well. We're not going to be a good team until we have more defined roles for all our players.
* So to me, it doesn't matter how many times we change people around or get other people, until we have a defined system with defined roles, we're going to continue to play musical chairs for years to come.
The raps have Derozan, Weems, Barbosa and now Bayless to play the 2, if Derozan has the highest value then why not trade him for a player playing a position of need. Who would argue to Derozan for Rubio? Or Derozan could go the Nuggets in the Melo deal with Lawson and Randolph coming to Toronto.
As 'good' (and that's debatable) as Johnson's been playing I don't think anyone would touch that contract with a 10 ft pole.
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