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Thread: McGrady Disses Bosh; Says Toronto Fans Don't Know Why They're Even Booing.

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    Quote NoFrillz wrote: View Post
    I can't remember where I read/heard this... but I remember Oak saying that management screwed up the tmac situation. They low-balled him big-time during negotiations. So one, he felt under-appreciated by the coaching staff, and two--management tried to chince him. Why wouldn't he go back home for max money?!
    They did.

    Met Antonio Davis in Scotia Plaza the year after McGrady left and he said that they offered T-Mac an incentive based contract (no max) with stipulations for stuff like working out 'x' amount of times per week. He felt disrespected and Orlando was going to offer him a max deal so he bounced.

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    Quote nubreed000 wrote: View Post
    Very true. Bosh, as immature as he was at handling this situation, didn't really do anything THAT bad. At the end of the day though, people in Toronto need to grow the f*** up and move on, but unfortunately a lot of people here suffer from inferiority complex so whenever a player decides he doesn't want to play here they (the fans) take it as a personal insult.

    I do remember that a lot of people in Toronto held a grudge against McGrady because he wanted to be "the man" and that's why he "ditched" Toronto. They need to find any reason to hate, so they take this as an excuse to hate McGrady because of his "massive ego" and his thinking that he's too good for Toronto.
    Not sure why the hate when all of these dudes say they love the city regardless of the fans reaction. You'd think they insulted your little sister.

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    I don't know whether you guys were even fans 10 years ago but here are a few reasons that fans still boo T-Mac:

    He sulked a few times to the media that it was too cold up in Toronto and that he never really liked to leave his condo. He wouldn't return Grunwald's phone calls once free agency began, even though at the end of season media gathering he told reporters that Toronto was his number 1 choice (it's easy to say today that EVERYONE knew he was leaving at the time).

    Once he left for Orlando he told ESPN that he guaranteed that Vince would leave too once he was a free agent (at the time Vince was our baby). Last season he also implied that Bosh would leave too and would never re-sign here (seemed like another diss to the franchise).

    Yeah he was right that bosh wouldnt re-sign but Tmac never had much respect for the city or the franchise. At least Vince loved toronto and embraced the city, same goes with Bosh.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Bosh didn't say anything bad about the city and never left on a bad note like Carter. He played out his contract and had every right to go play for another team. I'm not sure where you guys are getting this shit from...
    your right, he had every right to do that.

    But, had no right to dis up the city and country he played in and for for 7 years.
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    I don't know whether you guys were even fans 10 years ago but here are a few reasons that fans still boo T-Mac:

    He sulked a few times to the media that it was too cold up in Toronto and that he never really liked to leave his condo. He wouldn't return Grunwald's phone calls once free agency began, even though at the end of season media gathering he told reporters that Toronto was his number 1 choice (it's easy to say today that EVERYONE knew he was leaving at the time).

    Once he left for Orlando he told ESPN that he guaranteed that Vince would leave too once he was a free agent (at the time Vince was our baby). Last season he also implied that Bosh would leave too and would never re-sign here (seemed like another diss to the franchise).

    Yeah he was right that bosh wouldnt re-sign but Tmac never had much respect for the city or the franchise. At least Vince loved toronto and embraced the city, same goes with Bosh.
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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    i'll boo any player not wearing a raptors jersey.. the only exception to that rule is nash.

    but mcgrady always did get a bum wrap here
    fans in this city are idiots

    they'd rather goto games just to boo people instead of showing the love for the game and showing respect to true all stars

    mcgrady didnt even use his option and let the raptors do a sign and trade

    no wonder people dont want to come to toronto to play, screw face capital confirmed

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    your right, he had every right to do that.

    But, had no right to dis up the city and country he played in and for for 7 years.
    When did he "dis up the city and country he played in and for for 7 years"? From everything I've read and heard he always talks about how much he likes this city.

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    Quote Rg1990 wrote: View Post
    T-Mac was never a star until he went to Orlando. He showed flashes averaging 15 ppg in his last season in Toronto. I've got nothing against McGrady. He simply did what was better for him. Plus we already had Carter so he was blocking his development. Toronto fans in general will boo any past player. I'm surprised Charlie V didn't get booed. Leafs fans boo Brian McCabe...what for?

    Hey calm down, guys who average 15 ppg never get max contracts. He was a star, plain and simple. He was drafted 9th overall for a reason (in an era where high schoolers rarely went pro) and if the team sucked, he would have played more minutes. Unfortunately, they were competing and the defensive minded veterans got the PT.

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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    fans in this city are idiots

    they'd rather goto games just to boo people instead of showing the love for the game and showing respect to true all stars

    mcgrady didnt even use his option and let the raptors do a sign and trade

    no wonder people dont want to come to toronto to play, screw face capital confirmed
    my issue with the booing isnt that it happens... its that it doesnt happen enough

    it shouldn't be restricted to former raptors who left in less than favourable circumstances... it should apply to any player on the court who wants our team to lose.

    "home court advantage" isnt supposed to be "favoritism from the refs"... its supposed to actually mean something... you're SUPPOSED to be hated on the road.

    but im a throwback. ive been a fan since a hard foul was cracking a dude across the temple with your fist, and a flagrant meant you drew blood.

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    McGrady left Toronto over 10 years ago. Why are fans still booing him?
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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    my issue with the booing isnt that it happens... its that it doesnt happen enough

    it shouldn't be restricted to former raptors who left in less than favourable circumstances... it should apply to any player on the court who wants our team to lose.

    "home court advantage" isnt supposed to be "favoritism from the refs"... its supposed to actually mean something... you're SUPPOSED to be hated on the road.

    but im a throwback. ive been a fan since a hard foul was cracking a dude across the temple with your fist, and a flagrant meant you drew blood.
    Maybe we should cheer on the other teams instead? haha

    But honestly, saying we shouldn't boo teams is the dumbest thing ever. Do you even like sports?
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    Quote Employee wrote: View Post
    Maybe we should cheer on the other teams instead? haha

    But honestly, saying we shouldn't boo teams is the dumbest thing ever. Do you even like sports?
    EXACTLY. its like people think this is figure skating or synchronized swimming. Booing the opposition is part of being a fan.

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    Because he made us believe he would stay. Grunwald didn't trade him b/c he maliciously misrepresented his true intentions. In all fairness, he fu*ked with Chicago too. I remember him throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley. He and Vince couldn't play together even though we were in the playoffs in 2000. Totally the opposite of the Super Friends in Miami who want to play together. I don't know if it could even have happened considering some of these guys were traded for each other, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth thinkin our lineup could have possibly been:

    C - Antonio Davis/Marcus Camby
    PF - Bosh
    SF - TMac
    SG - Vince
    PG - Damon Stoudamire/Alvin Williams

    Outside of Camby, who was actually disappointed when he was traded, and Alvin, all of these fools should be booed loud and hard. If not for nothing else, then just b/c they don't wear raptor red and purple.

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    Hey, maybe one day, we'll boo teams because their our rivals or because our team is good enough to compete in the playoffs and we want to give them a real home court instead of booing immature guys in their 20s because they hurt our feelings and we, as Toronto fans, have an inferiority complex.

    (BTW, T-Mac had bad feelings leaving Orlando and Houston. They managed to somehow move on by (shock of all shocks) getting decent players. Toronto just subtly has their broadcasters throw these guys under the bus and sign Linus Klieza)

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    EXACTLY. its like people think this is figure skating or synchronized swimming. Booing the opposition is part of being a fan.
    is booing your own team part of being a fan as well?

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    When did he "dis up the city and country he played in and for for 7 years"? From everything I've read and heard he always talks about how much he likes this city.
    Uhh...seriously? When he was saying stupid shit like how Toronto "smells different" and how he couldn't get NBA League Pass (WTF lol!!??)? That's just a few I remember. I know there was a couple more. I don't know about you, but those certainly don't sound like compliments about the city to me. Funny how he never pointed out Toronto's poignant and unique stench the seven years he was here. I'm not holding a grudge against Bosh - truth is - I WANTED him to stay. But I didn't expect him to turn into such a diva, attention-starved whore on his way out, and especially make these weird backhanded compliments about that city. He's a really skilled player, but I for one certainly think he turned into a bitch ever since that all-star break.

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    Quote Employee wrote: View Post
    Maybe we should cheer on the other teams instead? haha

    But honestly, saying we shouldn't boo teams is the dumbest thing ever. Do you even like sports?
    maybe people are fans of the sport? and not just one team? like, are raptors games the only nba games you ever watch? no? why watch other teams if you dont like them?

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    Quote rhauer wrote: View Post
    I don't know whether you guys were even fans 10 years ago but here are a few reasons that fans still boo T-Mac:

    He sulked a few times to the media that it was too cold up in Toronto and that he never really liked to leave his condo. He wouldn't return Grunwald's phone calls once free agency began, even though at the end of season media gathering he told reporters that Toronto was his number 1 choice (it's easy to say today that EVERYONE knew he was leaving at the time).

    Once he left for Orlando he told ESPN that he guaranteed that Vince would leave too once he was a free agent (at the time Vince was our baby). Last season he also implied that Bosh would leave too and would never re-sign here (seemed like another diss to the franchise).

    Yeah he was right that bosh wouldnt re-sign but Tmac never had much respect for the city or the franchise. At least Vince loved toronto and embraced the city, same goes with Bosh.
    You are right on the money. Plus, Damon just bolted town like an a'hole. At the time we were a bit sensitive about keeping stars in town. It was a new franchise, and fans wanted to see its high draft picks stay around, especially when they were on the cusp of being really good. And McGrady did lead us on, like a little bitch, thus the extra disappointment. Then to rub salt in our wounds, he said that no one wants to play in Toronto and that Vince will bolt next. This didn't exactly endear us to him.

    We drafted McGrady out of highschool, taking a big risk and passing up some pretty good talent. Because he was only 18, the Raps had a freakin shrink counsel him for two years so he could adjust to NBA life and living in a "foreign" country. He gave us every indication that he was going to stay, even going as far as saying TO was his #1 option. Plus the media and marketing had this whole Carter and McGrady thing, where the cousins loved each other and enjoyed playing together.

    Then he bolts town like a little bitch. This was pretty shocking. That left Carter as the #1 dog. And we loved Carter back then. Then there was the whole family feud thing, where McGrady's mom started throwing insults at VC and his mom, and that whole thing blew-up into a bit of a fiasco. The boos started raining down when McGrady came back to town from then on out.

    I blame T-Mac for everything from there on out, just like this video says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpQwZC_ChcM
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    hahaha, this thread is awesome. I can't believe people are acting like Tmac left on good terms and never dissed the city. I mean you guys want to crucify Bosh for tweeting but Tmac was the biggest asshole around until Vince quit on the team. And he shat all over Toronto every chance he got. The fans aren't that stupid. He gave us reason to hate on him.

    F*ck Tmac. I'd boo his ass just for being such a waste of sublime talent even if he'd never been a Raptor. How did he never win even a single series? Even without Hill or Yao there were solid teams in place around him. He's just a stats/personal glory whore and now he's garbage.
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    Quote phez wrote: View Post
    is booing your own team part of being a fan as well?
    if that's your thing, you're welcome to it.

    ive never in my life booed my own team, and really dont have any desire to do it no matter how bad they're performing. mass groaning is a whole other story.

    im no fairweather fan. if they're winning, they're my favourite team. if they're losing, they're my favourite team. and if somebody is playing against my favourite team, fuck them. they're getting booed.

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