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    At the beginning of last season i was really hyped up about Derozan and how he would do his rookie year. This was without any knowledge that he was (at the time) 20 years old and only had 1 year of college ball. Throughout the whole 2009-2010 season i was beyond frustrated at Demar, along with a lot of others. I expected him to average 15 points a game and be one of the leaders of the raptors. This obviously didn't happen, i thought he was just another high flyer who just wanted to dunk. Then i saw the documentary after the season called one rookie i watched and was really excited for the future of this young man. I discovered that he is very humble and very hard working. He started this season off well averaging around 13 ppg and 3 rpg with almost 2 assists. I think if he continues to improve his shot and continue to become consistent he can become a 18-22 point per night man. What do you think?

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    This is probably the 100th time I'm saying this but if he puts in the work then the sky is the limit. If he puts on about 10 pounds of muscle, continues working on his range and ball handling, he could be a dangerous player. Eventually I want to see him play as our SF, so he needs to develop a solid post game too. Kid is still very young, and the times I've watched him play this year I was impressed. Still going to have some bad games though. We'll see what he's made of by the time he's 22 or 23.

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    He would be a beast if he improved his jump shot

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    I agree with all of you. I still have faith in DD. He has been frustrating this year because of his inconsistency. But if anything comes of this year, and there are a lot of games left, is the development of DD and the other young players. On another positive note, I think Colangelo is on a roll, and we will see some more good pieces come this way.
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    DD = the next Fred Jones

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    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    DD = the next Fred Jones
    black angus = a big 8===D

    ur doing nothing but trying to start problems.....

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    I've seen highlights, but never seen him play in person. Rivals.com has him rated 2nd best high school player in the country, so in his mind, he's probably a "1 and done" for Tim Floyd's USC Trojans

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    Quote Alex Boby wrote: View Post
    I've seen highlights, but never seen him play in person. Rivals.com has him rated 2nd best high school player in the country, so in his mind, he's probably a "1 and done" for Tim Floyd's USC Trojans
    Dude, what's with your posts? You don't make sense.

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    Well, he dropped 37 tonight against the Rockets so that shows some potential.
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    Quote pesterm1 wrote: View Post
    black angus = a big 8===D

    ur doing nothing but trying to start problems.....
    Not really - just giving my opinion. He will have the odd game where he goes for 30 plus, but will never be an all-star. All he has going for him is above average athleticism - does not take care of the ball, is a poor passer, is a bad defender, does not appear to understand team defense, and appears soft. At best he will become a Isaiah Rider... but my predicition is more of a Fred Jones - a great athlete that never reached his potential (or the potential the fans thought he had).

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    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    Not really - just giving my opinion. He will have the odd game where he goes for 30 plus, but will never be an all-star. All he has going for him is above average athleticism - does not take care of the ball, is a poor passer, is a bad defender, does not appear to understand team defense, and appears soft. At best he will become a Isaiah Rider... but my predicition is more of a Fred Jones - a great athlete that never reached his potential (or the potential the fans thought he had).
    I dont think he'll be like Fred Jones, but i do agree with you with Isaiah Rider, a 15 point a night player, the only difference is that Isaiah was a terrible person and had attitude problems, Demar's really humble and hard working (if you watched that video at the end of last season). Which, in my opinion will account for at least 3 more points than Isaiah

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    Lets compare DeRozan to a top five #2 guard in the NBA who is about his age and has one more season of NBA experience and has a gold medal - Eric Gordon.

    1. DeRozan is taller
    2. Gordon is stronger
    3. Gordon is a vastly superior defender
    4. Gordon is a vastly better shooter - He started slowly this season in his three point shooting but has picked it up as of late and it wouldn't surprise me if he finished at over 40% for 10-11.
    5. Gordon is a far better passer

    Gordon's Roland Rating, which takes into account defense is +7.1 which is the highest on the Clippers, even higher than Blake.

    DeRozan's Roland Rating is -7.9 (B4 last night)

    DeRozan has the potential to become a top #5 NBA #2 guard if he can significantly improve his long range jump shot and defense.
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    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    DD = the next Fred Jones
    ... He's already better than Fred Jones.

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    Sorry far pretty disappointed. Basically the same player as last year with more minutes. I'm no where close to giving up on him though. Next season is when the pressure will really be on him.
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    Sorry far pretty disappointed. Basically the same player as last year with more minutes. I'm no where close to giving up on him though. Next season is when the pressure will really be on him.
    thats good that you wont give up on him, he is pretty disappointing this year considering no hedo, no bosh and currently no andrea and he's only averaging 13?

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    Draft site Draft Express had a great write up on DD, and honestly it's still pretty much dead on. He has crazy hops, extremely coachable, great work ethic. No range, limited BBall IQ/creativity, lacks fire, handles and defensive fundamentals. The carrot on the end of the stick for Raps fans is that most everyone agreed (predraft) that he has the most upside of any wing in the 09 draft but that the team picking him will need to be patient.

    Bang on.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Demar-DeRozan-1319/

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    You know, I've given him a little bit of grief and questioned his ceiling. However one player to look at in terms of 'what could be' with hard work and determination is Wilson Chandler. I guess one thing to keep in mind is there is a bit of a difference size and draft position (23 versus 9) but hopefully no one will give too much grief over that.

    Here is Chandler's profile on TSN.ca, scroll down to his stats - NBA and college are there.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nba/teams/players/...ame=nba-knicks

    Here is DeRozan's:
    http://www.tsn.ca/nba/teams/players/...me=nba-raptors

    DeRozan's DraftExpress was put in by minks77. Here is a piece of Chandler's with the link for the full profile at the bottom:

    "Chandler is a raw, but extremely promising hybrid forward with prototypical tools for the next level. Standing somewhere around 6-8, he passes the eye test and then some, with an awesome combination of size, length, and athleticism. He has a fantastic frame and unbelievable explosiveness, being able to make at least a few plays in each game that almost no players in this draft are capable of.

    Not having scouted him all that seriously this past season (no one really expected to declare for the draft, let alone keep his name in), it was hard for us not to come away from watching his tapes recently feeling like he has more potential than anyone outside the top dozen names or so in this draft, and that we may have seriously slept on him these past few months."



    From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz19ujw6SRT
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    You know, I've given him a little bit of grief and questioned his ceiling. However one player to look at in terms of 'what could be' with hard work and determination is Wilson Chandler. I guess one thing to keep in mind is there is a bit of a difference size and draft position (23 versus 9) but hopefully no one will give too much grief over that.

    Here is Chandler's profile on TSN.ca, scroll down to his stats - NBA and college are there.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nba/teams/players/...ame=nba-knicks

    Here is DeRozan's:
    http://www.tsn.ca/nba/teams/players/...me=nba-raptors

    DeRozan's DraftExpress was put in by minks77. Here is a piece of Chandler's with the link for the full profile at the bottom:

    "Chandler is a raw, but extremely promising hybrid forward with prototypical tools for the next level. Standing somewhere around 6-8, he passes the eye test and then some, with an awesome combination of size, length, and athleticism. He has a fantastic frame and unbelievable explosiveness, being able to make at least a few plays in each game that almost no players in this draft are capable of.

    Not having scouted him all that seriously this past season (no one really expected to declare for the draft, let alone keep his name in), it was hard for us not to come away from watching his tapes recently feeling like he has more potential than anyone outside the top dozen names or so in this draft, and that we may have seriously slept on him these past few months."

    From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz19ujw6SRT
    http://www.draftexpress.com
    Though a perfectly legitimate argument, I'll continue to say that Tracy McGrady is the perfect match in the 'could be' catergory. Wilson Chandler plays much 'bigger' than Derozan. Though a valid comparison, I'm not sure it's completely spot on.

    I think the way both DD and TMac came into the league; very young and veery Raw, but showed incredible upside is the perfect place to start. Then one can look at their first season stats. Neearly identical. Sophomore, very similar, but Derozan has so far shown more promise at this point. I think it's a perfect comparison as both have shown similar play styles and both desperately needed to improve their outside game at an early age.

    Though I fully expect Demar to make his own name throughout the league in a year or two, when one looks at what could be, I think we need to expect a Tracy McGrady type player to come out of this.
    It's really all up to Demar. (And Triano I guess)

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Though a perfectly legitimate argument, I'll continue to say that Tracy McGrady is the perfect match in the 'could be' catergory. Wilson Chandler plays much 'bigger' than Derozan. Though a valid comparison, I'm not sure it's completely spot on.

    I think the way both DD and TMac came into the league; very young and veery Raw, but showed incredible upside is the perfect place to start. Then one can look at their first season stats. Neearly identical. Sophomore, very similar, but Derozan has so far shown more promise at this point. I think it's a perfect comparison as both have shown similar play styles and both desperately needed to improve their outside game at an early age.

    Though I fully expect Demar to make his own name throughout the league in a year or two, when one looks at what could be, I think we need to expect a Tracy McGrady type player to come out of this.
    It's really all up to Demar. (And Triano I guess)
    I wasn't really trying to compare the two. Rather give an indication of what can become of athletic, RAW players who put the work in.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I wasn't really trying to compare the two. Rather give an indication of what can become of athletic, RAW players who put the work in.
    Oh, then I agree with you. haha

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