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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    Presence of a guy like Nash, for his leadership, character and experiences in the locker room is worth 10 times more than the athelatic ability of a young talent.

    Raps were ONLY successful when they had a strong , well respected leaders in their Locker room. Since then, they have placed their faith on guys who are not Leaders or just because they are their best players, they should carry the extra responsibility of being a leader as well.

    If we are honest about going to young and start a youth movement here, then a guy like Nash is vital to our fuure and will ensure our succes.
    At age 37, Nash will ensure the success of the Raptors? Sorry but I don't see it.

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    It's not fair to do this to him after everything he's done for the league and Phoenix in particular. Yes, he's Canadian and may wind up in TO as maybe a front office guy or assistant coach someday but not as a player. Phoenix, should they decide to unload him will want future returns on the player(s) they get back. He will not have an impact in a team that needs so much more than leadership.

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    Carter's contract will be done this season because no doubt they won't be picking up his $18M option. If they cut Nash off the books now they save $12M on him next season. That would drop the Suns cap number to around $18M total (as Grant Hill's deal is about to expire). With that flexibility the can restock on the fly. The more I think about it, the more the Raptors TPE is valuable to the Suns. I would think they would want a guy like Bayless back.

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    At age 37, Nash will ensure the success of the Raptors? Sorry but I don't see it.
    that isOk. His leadership and work ethics has nothing to do with his age of 37 !!! That is irrelevant. In a team so disjointed like us, with bunch of European ballers, Youtube film makers wana be, Coach with chrisma worth a Canadian penny, having a player like Nash would be blessing from sky even if he can only play 20 minutes a game for next 2 season.

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    I love Nash but I oppose any idea of sending him to this sad excuse of a professional basketball team. The guy deserves a ring, not playing camp councilor.

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    I am torn, on the one side are we totally abandoning the concept of defense and on the other side is we will have a real point guard for the first time ever. I think nash has about 5 more great years in him and his work ethic and toughness will be inspiring to the young guys. Would be nice to win a championship with nash in toronto. As long as we dont give up demar, wright, davis,or barbosa in the process I am cool with it.

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    I am torn, on the one side are we totally abandoning the concept of defense and on the other side is we will have a real point guard for the first time ever. I think nash has about 5 more great years in him and his work ethic and toughness will be inspiring to the young guys. Would be nice to win a championship with nash in toronto. As long as we dont give up demar, wright, davis,or barbosa in the process I am cool with it.
    I think in order to get a player of Nash's calibre, you';d have to give up some youth.

    I don't see a need to Nash on this team. If we were in the thick of things in the east and dying for a very good, pure PG, i'd be all for it. Like some posters have alluded to, he'd be perfect on a team like Orlando (they're going for broke anyway) or Atlanta.

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    I am torn, on the one side are we totally abandoning the concept of defense and on the other side is we will have a real point guard for the first time ever. I think nash has about 5 more great years in him and his work ethic and toughness will be inspiring to the young guys. Would be nice to win a championship with nash in toronto. As long as we dont give up demar, wright, davis,or barbosa in the process I am cool with it.
    5 more years? dude I doubt he'll play past 2013.

    I love Nash but he'll only delay the process of rebuilding here. Sadly it wasn't meant to be and that's thanks to BC, could have pulled the a long time ago but it is what it is.

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    5 more years? dude I doubt he'll play past 2013.

    I love Nash but he'll only delay the process of rebuilding here. Sadly it wasn't meant to be and that's thanks to BC, could have pulled the a long time ago but it is what it is.
    I don't think you factored in the fact that he is Canadian , he absolutely can play for 5 more but he may choice not to. I don't know if I would make a move for him period but if it was barg for Nash it would probably give me alot of pause to the point where I may just pull that trigger. I am not BC so I don't envy the rebuilding process.

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    he absolutely can play for 5 more but he may choice not to.
    Do you have history to back that up?... Because I'm betting on history not taking your side on that one.

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    Do you have history to back that up?... Because I'm betting on history not taking your side on that one.
    Only one I can think of off the top of my head is John Stockton.

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    Stockton only played until age 40, not 42 and he was a shadow of himself in his last playoff series.

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    Stockton only played until age 40, not 42 and he was a shadow of himself in his last playoff series.
    Yes, at the end he was a shadow of his former self. But being one of the greatest pure PG's ever those are pretty big expectations to live up to.

    Born March 26, 1962.

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    41. We're both wrong.

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    Well he just turned 41 before the playoffs. His last series would be sub par for Jameer Nelson.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Well he just turned 41 before the playoffs. His last series would be sub par for Jameer Nelson.
    He still played until he was 41. As much as I hate to admit I'm wrong, I am - as are you. lol

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    You people are crazy for not wanting Nash to come. I think he would rather finish his career in Canada, playing with Triano who, a guy he loves, rather then going to an Atlanta. Trade for Calderon!

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    He still played until he was 41. As much as I hate to admit I'm wrong, I am - as are you. lol
    Yeah, alright. So we can pick one name out of thousands. Anyone like those odds?

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Yeah, alright. So we can pick one name out of thousands. Anyone like those odds?
    No. And I am in agreement the Raps will be better in the long run without him now.

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    Default Suns Unlikely To Deal Nash

    Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver and President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby have said they do not foresee trading point guard Steve Nash, who has reaffirmed a commitment and desire to stay with the Suns.

    "We've already made one huge trade, and we've got to let that settle out before we do anything more, but we've always got our eyes and ears open," Babby said. "We will do our due diligence."
    "I think we'd like to play with the guys we have," Suns coach Alvin Gentry said
    Source: azcentral.com

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    Quote Nick wrote: View Post
    You people are crazy for not wanting Nash to come. I think he would rather finish his career in Canada, playing with Triano who, a guy he loves, rather then going to an Atlanta. Trade for Calderon!
    There are reasons why Nash shouldn't come:

    1) Nash would cost the Raptors picks and young players that are going to be crucial in its rebuilding process. With Nash on board we are right back to being a mediocre team again which will eliminate the chance of getting a high draft pick.

    2) At 37 years of age there is no telling when Nash would hit the wall. It could happen next season.

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