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    As for the Jays, I'm hoping for Garza. Might not be enough to put the team over the top but at least the potential for a playoff ballclub will be there
    The talk has been more about Ubaldo Jiminez or Ervin Santana.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    The talk has been more about Ubaldo Jiminez or Ervin Santana.
    Less sold on those two, as they have up and down seasons . Surely they'll have a bad season with Toronto and the blame will be on the dome


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    Wanted to see him in a Dodger uniform.... in the National League. With the posting fee, that's $175 million over 7 years. Wow.

    At least now the other pitching free agents will be willing to sign. Jays should be able to get one of the quality starters available. Interesting to see what Dodgers, Cubs, Sox do as well.
    The dodgers are trying to get PRice out of Tampa according to reports.
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    Does the 177 million include the $20 million posting fee? I was under the impression that it was separate. At any rate, it's crazy that Tanaka got that kind of money and he hasn't even pitched in the majors. I know his splitter is really good, but those guys in the Japanese League have nothing on MLB hitters. I think Tanaka won't be anywhere as good as fellow countryman Darvish, but he'll be better than Matsuzaka. But sheeeit, over $20 mil a season? That just drove up the prices of Jiminez, Santana and Garza. I believe the Jays won't sign any of them. Can't give average to slightly above average pitchers like that in excess of $15 million.
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    The dodgers are trying to get PRice out of Tampa according to reports.
    The Dodgers are going to do a soccer style transaction and give up Tampa like $50-60 million for Price's rights. I don't know who the Rays would want from the Dodgers - LA's farm system is pretty bare.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    That just drove up the prices of Jiminez, Santana and Garza. I believe the Jays won't sign any of them. Can't give average to slightly above average pitchers like that in excess of $15 million.
    Depends. There may be teams like the DBacks and Dodgers who wanted Tanaka but not a Jiminez or Santana. A bidding war may or may not develop. Obviously, if one does, the Jays will be out. They'll have some excuse but it will come down to not wanting to spend the money....

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    So, Garza's off to Milwaukee pending medicals, which, with him, could actually be a thing.... $52 million/4 years.

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    Really hoping this sets the stage for the Jays to sign either Santana or Jimenez for less money than they want

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    Word is now they could pick up both jiminez and santana now. Personally i would way rather jiminez , don't trust ervin at all

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    Considering both Jiminez and Santana will be immensely overpaid, it may be better to just stay with what they have and do something during the season.
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    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10523509

    JP Arencibia goin off as Tim Kurkjian again. Pretty funny even for a sub .200 hitter
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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10523509

    JP Arencibia goin off as Tim Kurkjian again. Pretty funny even for a sub .200 hitter
    JPs Wikipedia sums him up best:
    Arencibia finished the 2013 season batting below the Mendoza line, hitting just .194, although he did hit 21 home runs, placing him second amongst MLB catchers to Matt Wieters, and 55 RBIs.[28] However, his extremely low batting average, coupled with drawing only 18 walks over the course of the entire season, led to an historically low OPS for Arencibia: with a .592 OPS, he became the first player in major league history to reach 20 homers in a season and still post a sub-.600 OPS. (The next lowest OPS for a 20-homer season was .649 by Cleveland’s Willie Kirkland in 1962.)
    Looking up "Mendoza Line" we find this:
    This is often thought of as the offensive threshold below which a player's presence in Major League Baseball cannot be justified, regardless of his defensive abilities.
    Harsh. He does a mean impression though. Lol
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    How about them Jays! undefeated! World series here we come!


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    Quote wallz wrote: View Post
    How about them Jays! undefeated! World series here we come!

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    How about them Jays! undefeated! World series here we come!

    It'a only spring training but one can't count them out based on last years showing.
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    Quote Eric Akshinthala wrote: View Post
    Considering both Jiminez and Santana will be immensely overpaid, it may be better to just stay with what they have and do something during the season.
    I'm terrified at the state of our pitching right now. They will be overpaid, but I mean... Dickey may never get it back and didn't have sustained success, Morrow is always a threat to break again, Buehrle's decent but he's no longer what he was, Happ is okay, and then... who? Hope for Drabek? Pray for Romero to find his form again magically? We don't have even close to a good staff
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    Quote TSF wrote: View Post
    I'm terrified at the state of our pitching right now. They will be overpaid, but I mean... Dickey may never get it back and didn't have sustained success, Morrow is always a threat to break again, Buehrle's decent but he's no longer what he was, Happ is okay, and then... who? Hope for Drabek? Pray for Romero to find his form again magically? We don't have even close to a good staff
    Pitching is a concern but what AA did was probably best. Dickey, Burhle and Morrow are the only starting calibre pitchers with Morrow's reliability a concern. However it should be a little better than last year 'cause H'son is healthy enough to pitch. M Stroman and Sanchez are almost ready as well. Also I have a feeling that Romero will return to form.
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    Anyone know what the word is on santana ? Has he picked between the o's and jays?

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    Quote jacobdr4 wrote: View Post
    Anyone know what the word is on santana ? Has he picked between the o's and jays?
    I've been refreshing my twitter since 1pm. LOL. Nothing!
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    I've been refreshing my twitter since 1pm. LOL. Nothing!
    Haha there was an article saying he would decide by 5 . Last people were saying was he was leaning o's

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