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MangoKid wrote: View PostSo Roy Hibbert makes the Indiana Pacers a legit contender right now?
first you assumed that i said we could have drafted a star in the late 1st round
now you assume that hibbert makes indiana a legit contender...
do you hear voices in your head ? cuz if you dont then learn how to have a discussion without making assumptions.
im done with you, go enjoy the post game show, oh shit we got blown out AGAIN
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karim_nasir wrote: View Postno but a good question is why do you always make assumptions ?
first you assumed that i said we could have drafted a star in the late 1st round
now you assume that hibbert makes indiana a legit contender...
do you hear voices in your head ? cuz if you dont then learn how to have a discussion without making assumptions.
im done, go enjoy the post game show, oh shit we got blown out AGAIN
karim_nasir wrote: View Postlittle things like this is what separates the chronic lottery teams from the champs.
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Apollo wrote: View PostJAMES JOHNSON
Source: NBADraft.net
This is the sort of feal where I think you need to step back and give it some time before you can decide if it is good or not. I honestly have not seen the guy play enough to comment more than he was drafted 16th overall and the Heat pick was probably going to be 28-30th overall in a weak draft.
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smushmush wrote: View Postway to go BC. BC needs to go (go back to your dad, you really suck as a GM ).
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostSorry smushsmush, but I don't think BC is looking to you for career advice. Keep trying though. And when he get's a $5M contract and you don't, then we can wonder where the system went wrong and why you aren't up there.
He will get his $5 M contract and laugh at fans like you in his way to bank who support him despite his lackluster effort while providing you guys with one of worst teams in the league after 5 years.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostHow did I make assumptions? You talked about Roy Hibbert then stated that
I asked if Roy Hibbert made Indiana a legit contender since you seem to make him out to be. I mean, since he's been in the fold, they haven't made it to the playoffs yet and hasn't been talked of as an all-star, but yet, I ask you a simple question and you flew off the handle.
Come on man, you can not be this SLOWWW !!! You are just NOT getting it. Johnson is a player who got his time in NBA and has shown he does not have to be a solid starter or even a solid rotational player in this league. This is a fact. Now, the guy might turn it around and ... but so far, with all the opportunities that were given to him, he has failed and has failed badly.
Now, with a 26-27 picks, some teams in past were able to do their homework right and pick players who were able to contribute and become solid starters or at least ROTATIONAL players in this league.
Now, is this guaranteed ? Heck no, but we could have not done worst than Johnson with that pick since Johnson is not one already.
So Stop all the non-sense about contender, game changing player and ... and just think. I am sure you will get it.
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karim_nasir wrote: View Postlook up roy hibbert. bc was probably like ahh w/e, that 17th pick wont amount to anything anyway, here you go indiana...
little things like this is what separates the chronic lottery teams from the champs.
San Antonio is probably the best at drafting low in the entire NBA, and they've made their share of mistakes. In 2007, the drafted Tiago Splitter, who was projected to go higher, but since San Antonio could afford to wait for him to be available, it was an easy pick. Of course, at the 33rd pick they drafted Marcus Williams, who played 13 games, instead of Glen Davis, who went two spots later. And Marc Gasol even was available.
In 2005, they drafted Ian Mahinmi, when David Lee was available and went just two spots later. Ersan Ilyasova, Ronny Turiaf and Monta Ellis also could have been taken there. Or Brandon Bass, Amir Johnson and Marcin Gortat. A lot of choice, but the geniuses in the Spurs head office went with a guy who has played a total of 66 games and is having a career high in mpg at 7. Boy, do those guys suck at drafting.
In 2004, they drafted Beno Udrih, who's not a bad player, but he's certainly no Anderson Varejao who was taken, coincidentally, two spots later and who would probably still be with the team had the Spurs seen fit to draft him. Also available at that spot was Chris Duhon and Trevor Ariza, both of whom play the type of defense that the Spurs like.
I could go on, but I think you get the point. Pointing to a player a GM passed up on as "proof" he should be fired is a slippery slope since you can make that same case for EVERY GM, including one's that have won Championships.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Raptor4Ever wrote: View PostSome of you guys really need to read and watch more basketball. This guy has been playing in D-League, has been so inconsistent with Bulls that he was not getting any minute. Look at the front page for scouting report on him.
Fouls at a high rate, Turns the ball over at high rate and ...
We got the over weight Joey for our FIRST ROUND Miami Pick and you guys are celebrating like we got a budding super star.
Ops, I forgot, his last name is Johnson and maybe this is why !!!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostQuite a number of teams passed on Hibbert that year. And last time I checked, Indiana was not a Championship team. You're getting a little ridiculous, now. Every team, including the Spurs, miss out on players in the draft. Every team drafts a dud when a good player was available. That's why drafting low is such a crapshoot.
San Antonio is probably the best at drafting low in the entire NBA, and they've made their share of mistakes. In 2007, the drafted Tiago Splitter, who was projected to go higher, but since San Antonio could afford to wait for him to be available, it was an easy pick. Of course, at the 33rd pick they drafted Marcus Williams, who played 13 games, instead of Glen Davis, who went two spots later. And Marc Gasol even was available.
In 2005, they drafted Ian Mahinmi, when David Lee was available and went just two spots later. Ersan Ilyasova, Ronny Turiaf and Monta Ellis also could have been taken there. Or Brandon Bass, Amir Johnson and Marcin Gortat. A lot of choice, but the geniuses in the Spurs head office went with a guy who has played a total of 66 games and is having a career high in mpg at 7. Boy, do those guys suck at drafting.
In 2004, they drafted Beno Udrih, who's not a bad player, but he's certainly no Anderson Varejao who was taken, coincidentally, two spots later and who would probably still be with the team had the Spurs seen fit to draft him. Also available at that spot was Chris Duhon and Trevor Ariza, both of whom play the type of defense that the Spurs like.
I could go on, but I think you get the point. Pointing to a player a GM passed up on as "proof" he should be fired is a slippery slope since you can make that same case for EVERY GM, including one's that have won Championships.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostSkilled bigs are at a premium, so if there is a good one, they are usually gone in the lotto and mid-late teens. Good bigs floating around the late 20s is a rarity. The ones you find 25 and lower, more often than not, they're bigtime projects, and take minimum 3-4 years to develop, that is, if they're able to stick. The Raps already have two project bigs - Ajinca and Alabi.
This trade, in my opinion, signals the end of Julian Wright in Toronto. Hope I'm wrong on this one.
smushmush wrote: View PostGood, another ball player in James Johnson that is all O(and even streaky at that) and bad D, way to go BC. BC needs to go (go back to your dad, you really suck as a GM ).
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Noah Not Happy
I tried posting this yesterday but it seems it was lost in cyber space:
"It [stinks]," Bulls center Joakim Noah said. "I consider J.J. a little brother. But he wasn't playing a lot, and I wish him nothing but the best. And I hope that he gets an opportunity to get out there on the court and show what kind of player he is."
Source: ESPN.com
Now obviously Noah is his friend but still, the guy thinks Johnson is talented and deserves an opportunity. Maybe we should all keep an open mind and see how he does now and until the end of the season?
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Apollo wrote: View PostI tried posting this yesterday but it seems it was lost in cyber space:
Source: ESPN.com
Now obviously Noah is his friend but still, the guy thinks Johnson is talented and deserves an opportunity. Maybe we should all keep an open mind and see how he does now and until the end of the season?TRUE LOVE - Sometimes you know it the instant you see it across the bar.
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I just want to point out a former Raptor who had a similar start to his NBA career and who is playing very well right not, albeit on a bad team, but he is doing well. Kris Humphries in his 7th NBA season has been a great power forward off the bench averaging 9 and 9, he started to show what he could do and gained confidence last year when he got traded to the Nets. With minutes Hump has put together all the flashed he showed us in Toronto and has carved out a decent run. Like Hump, Johnson came out early and has not been given a roll and minutes to see what he can really do. Will Johnson turn it around like Kris, I don't know, but is he worth a shot, yes.Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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