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    Default Nuggets' Recent Success Calls Into Question Melo's True Value?

    The Nuggets are 8-2 in their last ten.
    The Knicks are 5-5 in their last ten.

    Remember when the Denver Nuggets were good?

    Remember when they made the Western Conference finals in 2009 and tossed a serious scare into the eventual champion Lakers before falling 4-2?

    The next year, after looking as if they might again challenge the Lakers, coach George Karl was lost for the season’s final 1 ½ months due to a form of throat cancer. Assistant Adrian Dantley took over and the Nuggets fell apart in the playoffs and were upset by Utah.

    Then this season the Carmelo Anthony drama hit. The star forward finally got his wish and was dealt February 22 to New York. So there went the Nuggets as they had been known, right?

    Wait a minute here. The Nuggets (39-27) still are good. Perhaps even better than before.

    Since the trade, Denver is 7-2. Throw in a February 16 win at Milwaukee in what turned out to be Melo’s final bow, and the only NBA teams hotter over the past 10 games are the Lakers and Chicago at 9-1.

    “A lot of people said we were going to be the Cavaliers of the West and stuff like that,’’ Denver forward Al Harrington said of some projections about life without Anthony being similar to what Cleveland has gone through since LeBron James bolted to Miami. “We got a lot of guys with a lot of pride and we got some good players (in the trade). So we’re just going out with a chip on our shoulder for sure. The New York guys (acquired in the trade) are definitely pissed off that they were moved and stuff like that. We’re just going to make the best of the situation.’’

    In the three-team deal, which also included Minnesota and in which the Nuggets also sent point guard Chauncey Billups and three benchwarmers to the Knicks, they got forwards Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari, guard Raymond Felton, center Timofey Mozgov and a future first-round pick from New York and center Kosta Koufos from the Timberwolves.

    It was a bevy of assets that few initially expected the Nuggets would collect from New York. After all, Anthony could have opted out of his contract to join the Knicks as a free agent this summer, although he might have ended up losing tens of millions of dollars under a new collective bargaining agreement.

    The Knicks (34-31), who signed Anthony to a three-year, $64.47 million contract extension that takes him through 2014-15, haven’t improved much since the trade. They’ve gone 6-5 to remain No. 6 in the East.

    “We’re a better team (than New York), I feel like. That’s it,’’ said Felton, not elaborating.

    Harrington, who played last season for the Knicks, agreed.

    “If we had to play them in one game, I think we would win,’’ Harrington said.

    If the Nuggets and Knicks ever meet in the playoffs, that would be very good news in Denver since it would mean a first-ever Nuggets appearance in the NBA Finals. For now, though, Denver is worrying a lot more about teams in the West.

    The Nuggets’ surge has pushed them to the West’s No. 5 seed, where they would be quite pleased to end up. That likely would mean avoiding heavyweights San Antonio, Dallas and the Lakers in the first round and a likely matchup with Oklahoma City, which is still young and has lost seven straight games in Denver by an average margin of defeat of 19.3 points.

    “I think we’ve got a good enough team to surprise some people,’’ Felton said of the postseason.
    Source: HoopsHype.com

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    They are getting really good PG play out of Lawson and Felton and they still have a pretty decent frontline in Nene, Martin and Anderson. Add in Smith, Chandler and Harrington and they are solid on the wing. They don't have a lot of depth in terms of bigs (unless Mozgov can play better) and I don't know who will take late game shots for them but the Nuggets could be a tough out in the West given their experience, coaching and toughness.

    The Knicks just don't have any depth. Losing to the Pacers at home is embarassing. They desperately need Billups to get healthy and stay sharp or else they are probably a sub-500 team. Moving Felton was a big mistake.

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    Obviously they are good now. They got 3 starters and a quality bench player for Melo. They are loaded at ever position. On top of that, that team is actually playing D which they didn't when Melo was around (he was always known as a bad defender).

    Denver Nuggets 107.3 PT 40.0-82.7 FG (.484) 20.2-27.6 FT (.732) 7.1-19.8 3P (.359) 46.2/9.8 RB 24.4 AS 4.9 BL 8.8 ST 13.3 TO 19.6 PF 10 G (last 10 games)

    Nuggets Opponents 94.5 PT 36.5-82.6 FG (.442) 16.5-21.4 FT (.771) 5.0-17.9 3P (.279) 38.1/7.7 RB 20.9 AS 6.1 BL 8.0 ST 13.8 TO 21.5 PF 10 G (last 10 games)

    Nuggets roster: Arron Afflalo #6, Chris Andersen #11, Wilson Chandler #21, Melvin Ely #34, Raymond Felton #20, Gary Forbes #0, Danilo Gallinari #8, Al Harrington #7, Kosta Koufos #41, Ty Lawson #3, Kenyon Martin #4, Timofey Mozgov #25, Nene #31, J.R. Smith #5
    Knicks roster: Carmelo Anthony #7, Renaldo Balkman #32, Chauncey Billups #4, Derrick Brown #2, Anthony Carter #25, Toney Douglas #23, Landry Fields #6, Jared Jeffries #9, Roger Mason Jr. #18, Andy Rautins #11, Amar'e Stoudemire #1, Ronny Turiaf #14, Bill Walker #5, Shawne Williams #3, Shelden Williams #13
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    Yeah I kept expecting them to have trouble scoring, but they have some serious depth and a lot of guys that aren't afraid of taking shots.
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    I'm laughing so hard I cannot contain myself. Words like the "BIG 3" and "Superfriends" are now stupid terms compared to when they came out. Basketball is a team sport, not NBA 2KX. Phil Jackson said it best when he referred to the Heat as "XBOX Basketball" with a bunch of one-and-done players with massive egos and no ball movement. The Knicks are the same no matter what. Go ahead, add a third superstar and watch your team collapse in the playoffs. LMFAO!!!
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    Come playoff time, and this argument would all be evaporated.

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    The trade was great for the Nuggets. Not only is there more ball-distribution, they got a ton of talent. They have been winning and they don't even have Gallinari playing. Honestly, apart from clutch plays, I don't see how Melo is even better than Chandler/Gallinari combined. They both can score, both have better strokes than Melo, they both are physical and athletic, both big, etc.... So pretty much the Nuggets got a lot of talent. Not to mention the duo of Lawson and Felton. The Nuggets are definitely going in the right direction, but it also probably makes Cavalier and Raptor fans think to themselves, what could we have gotten. Many thought that Melo was selfish and all, but at least he got his team heaps of talent...

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    Felton has been surprising since he left the Bobcats. Both his court sense and shooting have improved A combination of playing where he was the college star and then Mr. Brown who is notoriously tough on point guards may have been a problem for him. Melo's biggest true asset is his close out capability in games. But for that to happen his team has to get the game there...the Knicks dont have the bench to do that...same problem with the Heat incl. inside presence...the starters cant play major minutes continuously.


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