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Thread: ESPN Insider: Buyer's remorse for Raptors, Magic

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    Default ESPN Insider: Buyer's remorse for Raptors, Magic

    Hedo Turkoglu and Vince Carter not living up to the hype:

    Turkoglu has been decent offensively but nothing better, with a league-average Player Efficiency Rating (15.06), a high assist rate and middling shooting numbers (42.8 percent after slumping to 41.3 percent last season). Meanwhile, his aversion to defense has become far more glaring without Dwight Howard around to erase his mistakes, playing a role in Toronto's plummet to last in defensive efficiency.

    Moreover, the Raptors are on the hook for four more years after this one at $11 million a pop. For a soon-to-be 31-year-old who basically is an average starter, that seems a highly questionable expenditure.
    Yet, in Orlando, many observers seem to yearn for the halcyon days of last spring when Turkoglu directed the offense. Carter has been more productive than Turkoglu in terms of sheer numbers (22.9 points per 40 minutes, 16.98 PER), but he's getting his numbers in a different way. Carter is shooting only 39.3 percent from the floor after Tuesday's 2-for-15 stink bomb in a 97-90 loss to Indiana, and despite all the weapons around him, his assist rate threatens to set a new career low.
    In part, this probably is a sample-size issue. Carter is shooting only 31.5 percent on 3-pointers, but it's unlikely that rate will stay that low all season, given that he has shot 37.3 percent for his career and has more clean catch-and-shoot looks in Orlando than he ever saw in New Jersey or Toronto.

    However, his inability to create as many open looks for teammates as Turkoglu did requires him to be a more effective scorer. So far, it's tough for him to declare victory on that front -- he's scoring more often than his predecessor but less efficiently.

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    No doubt Turkoglu hasn't been playing like an eleven million dollar man but give it some time. Everything is still very new to everyone on the team.

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    Irony: Wince was playing like Hedo his last year with the Nets...with compliments all around about how he changed his game with Jefferson gone and Harris injured. He had the ball in his hands quite a bit and distributed well. He seems to have reverted to his no-drive, jump-shooting, circus shooting-low percentage-earlyintheclock heaving self. Must be mama's cooking.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    Irony: Wince was playing like Hedo his last year with the Nets...with compliments all around about how he changed his game with Jefferson gone and Harris injured. He had the ball in his hands quite a bit and distributed well. He seems to have reverted to his no-drive, jump-shooting, circus shooting-low percentage-earlyintheclock heaving self. Must be mama's cooking.
    It seems VC simply prefers losing. Just look how often his laughs and goof's aroud with his teammates on bench when his team is losing.

    And because he prefers losing to winning, he's sabotaging his current team.

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    LOL, its more like he doesn't care about winning or losing as he looks the same at the end of each scenario.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    No doubt Turkoglu hasn't been playing like an eleven million dollar man but give it some time. Everything is still very new to everyone on the team.
    seriously ! 36 games isnt enough ?

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    I'd still take Hedo over Vince, VC can single handedly take you out of games going 2-15 while also occasionally going off and winning you the game. Turk seems to be steadier all around without the king-size ego and lack of effort to go with it.
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