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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    Best case scenario: Demar gets some rest and relaxation before training camp. With or without DD, USA basketball will be the only team with 12 NBA players on the roster. It should be good for gold.
    Actually, the Americans have rarely fared well at this tournament, and they've always sported a Pro Team.
    Before winning it last year, they hadn't won it since 1994, when it was held in Toronto/Hamilton. They even Finished as low as 6th in 2002.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ball_World_Cup
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Actually, the Americans have rarely fared well at this tournament, and they've always sported a Pro Team.
    Before winning it last year, they hadn't won it since 1994, when it was held in Toronto/Hamilton. They even Finished as low as 6th in 2002.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ball_World_Cup
    Coach K is 62 wins and 1 loss in FIBA rules competition. The Americans had an amateur team in FIBA events before 1992. The first tournament was in 1950.

    The 1994 FIBA World Championship, held in Ontario, Canada after original host Belgrade was forced to withdraw on account of the Yugoslav Wars, was full of new sights. In 1989, FIBA made the decision to open up future competitions to professional players, starting with the 1992 Summer Olympics.
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    He had a rookie year like that of Kobe. He is more athletic than kobe. And he has a very good work ethic.
    I'd say theres 2 points to this .. Demar has proven that with him, the sky really is the limit. There's no telling how much more he could improve. And secondly, if James Harden gets to be called a Superstar, I see no reason why Demar couldn't. If we continue making noise in the East, he'll get his dues.
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    I'd say theres 2 points to this .. Demar has proven that with him, the sky really is the limit. There's no telling how much more he could improve. And secondly, if James Harden gets to be called a Superstar, I see no reason why Demar couldn't. If we continue making noise in the East, he'll get his dues.
    Kinda random, but, after watching that Team USA scrimmage, I've started imagining DeMar as this creative scorer type. A guy who is pretty good hitting mid-range shots, drives to the rim a lot, and uses both of those things to create shots for others like mad. You know, like a point forward who can't shoot outside the 3 point line.

    I also think I'm high. May cancel out the earlier thought.

    EDIT: Not actually high, don't do drugs kids.
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    I'm really looking forward to see DeMar this upcoming season.

    His first 2 seasons I had all the same hopes and optimism I have for current crop of Raps young players such as JV, TR, and now Bruno.

    Year 3 and 4 really turned me (understatement of the year?). I stand by many of my opinions regarding his play in year 3 and 4. It really and truly was bad basketball and I'll leave it at that.

    Heading in to year 5 I was not convinced he was the exception to the rule about 4 years in to the league and playing nearly 10,000 minutes. Turns out I was wrong on that. People on these forums (not the emotion backed posters, but the posters with rational and objective approaches) have also done a good job of showing improvement in his play.


    So as we eagerly anticipate year 6, I am looking forward to what DeMar brings. Without the homerism of year 1 and 2, the bitterness of year 3 and 4, and the skepticism of year 5 I hope I can sit back and truly watch as his dedication to his craft the last 5 years hopefully leads to a better understanding of the game and, most importantly, decisions within it.



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    Anyone have access to ESPN Insider SG projections?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...s-warp-2014-15

    All I got from here (http://www.fearthesword.com/2014/8/1...shooting-guard) is that top five goes Harden, Wade, Ellis, Butler, Waiters, but it looks like they're using WARP as the baseline stat? I'm curious where they've pegged DeMar.

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    Wait a minute...someone else has Waiters better than DD other than me??

    @imanshumpart can you please confirm this??

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Wait a minute...someone else has Waiters better than DD other than me??

    @imanshumpart can you please confirm this??
    I think imanshumpart is on a forum hiatus.

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    I think imanshumpart is on a forum hiatus.
    Ahh...no wonder it has been quiet

    Either way, I'm glad I'm not alone in that thought...got a lot a hate here for it

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    Derozan didn't make it in their Top 10.

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    I'm guessing because Demar plays more of the 3 spot for this team.
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    They said he needs to have another good season before they put him in Top 10.

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    They said he needs to have another good season before they put him in Top 10.
    And what about Waiters ... ? Shouldn't he have ONE good season before being placed in the Top 5? Stupid.

    Waiters sucks.
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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    I think imanshumpart is on a forum hiatus.
    ie banned? Yep!
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    And what about Waiters ... ? Shouldn't he have ONE good season before being placed in the Top 5? Stupid.

    Waiters sucks.
    Yeah I don't quite get the Waiters love in NBA circles. He hasn't proven to be much of a player yet but has all the attitude of someone who has arrived. I think he'll be a bust.

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    Waiters is terrible. Not sure what statistical approach they are using, but it's the wrong one. Both WS and WP place him as one of the worst SG's in the league, and even xRAPM has him barely a positive impact player.

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    I just wish DeMar had this sort of confidence...


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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    They said he needs to have another good season before they put him in Top 10.
    That is fair but obviously that requirement is not a constant among the list.

    Whatever.

    With Lowry getting an AS snub last year and DeRozan not even making the top 10 in SGs (despite being named an all-star) there should be lots of fuel to drive motivation this season.... .hopefully both players don't put their own snubs above team success.
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    This is what they said about Waiters

    Waiters is combined minus-0.4 WARP during his first two NBA seasons, so the system might be a little optimistic with this forecast. What the metrics might be missing is the intrinsic value of Waiters' ability to create offense. Despite a well-bellow-average true shooting percentage, Waiters offensive RPM has been positive in both his seasons and reached plus-1.8 last year. If the optimism of his forecast proves to be warranted, its a scary proposition for rest of the NBA. Cleveland point guard Kyrie Irving clocked in at No. 5 in our rankings yesterday. It's probably not spoiling anything to tell you that James and Kevin Love will rate very high at their respective positions as well. If Waiters really develops into a top-five shooting guard, that will be something to see.
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    Full Top 10

    1. James Harden
    2. D-Wade
    3. Monta Ellis
    4. Jimmy Butler
    5. Dion Waiters
    6. Tyreke Evans
    7. Oladipo
    8. Klay Thompson
    9. Manu Ginobili
    10. Lance Stephenson

    Next 5: Kobe, Beal, Danny Green Wesley Matthews, JR Smith.

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