Everything Derozan

[iblastoff]

A very Melo like game. Yeah, he produced 35/9/5, but the ball doesn't move once it touches his hands. Biggest difference between this game and the GSW game, is that GSW has capable defenders while Philly rolls out a D-League roster. If he can replicate his productivity against a quality opponent, it would be much more tangible.

38% Usage is ridiculous, even for a single game. 2nd highest of the season (behind his 39.6% in the loss to Milwaukee a month ago) and 4th highest in his career.

Between FG and FT, Demar had 34 attempts to get his 35 points. The whistle is not a sustainable offensive strategy.

Kudos for the 9 rebounds though (3rd highest of his season).

no idea why people keep saying this. his season averages at getting to the line shows that it IS sustainable. nevermind the fact that last year in the playoffs he got to the line even more than his season average.

getting to the line is clearly one of DD's main strengths in todays game. not taking advantage of it would be stupid.

[mcHAPPY]

no idea why people keep saying this. his season averages at getting to the line shows that it IS sustainable. nevermind the fact that last year in the playoffs he got to the line even more than his season average.

getting to the line is clearly one of DD's main strengths in todays game. not taking advantage of it would be stupid.

It isn't sustainable because it is beyond his control.

We've seen plenty of games where refs swallow the whistle.

The odds of it happening in the playoffs only increase as game slows and physicality increases.

Complaining and whining looking for the call only works for the LBJs and Thibs of the game.

[Axel]

no idea why people keep saying this. his season averages at getting to the line shows that it IS sustainable. nevermind the fact that last year in the playoffs he got to the line even more than his season average.

getting to the line is clearly one of DD's main strengths in todays game. not taking advantage of it would be stupid.

It's not a sustainable strategy because you are relying on actions of both the opponent and the referee to accomplish it. There is no guarantee that those other parties are going to "co-operate".

Fouling is also a fluctuating event. Opponent's personnel and strategy can greatly impact the probability of a foul getting called. Demar only gets to the line 4 times per game against the Bulls, but gets there 10 times per game vs the Wiz. That is a pretty big fluctuation and pretty nicely demonstrates the difference between the 1st round (Was) and the 2nd round (Chi) in terms of opponent quality.

[Nilanka]

It's not a sustainable strategy because you are relying on actions of both the opponent and the referee to accomplish it. There is no guarantee that those other parties are going to "co-operate".

Fouling is also a fluctuating event. Opponent's personnel and strategy can greatly impact the probability of a foul getting called. Demar only gets to the line 4 times per game against the Bulls, but gets there 10 times per game vs the Wiz. That is a pretty big fluctuation and pretty nicely demonstrates the difference between the 1st round (Was) and the 2nd round (Chi) in terms of opponent quality.

DeMar shot just 3-17 against Jimmy Butler in the only game vs. Chicago this year. Butler's a disciplined defender who rarely bites on pump fakes, and doesn't crowd poor shooters on the perimeter. In a 7 game series, he'd render DeRozan completely useless.

[Axel]

DeMar shot just 3-17 against Jimmy Butler in the only game vs. Chicago this year. Butler's a disciplined defender who rarely bites on pump fakes, and doesn't crowd poor shooters on the perimeter. In a 7 game series, he'd render DeRozan completely useless.

Which means more shot attempts for Vasquez!!!!

Poor JV. Do the guards even know he's on the team?

[DanH]

DD definitely had a good game - drove a lot, lifted guys, and several times when the pump fake didn't work, he passed instead if jacking the contested shot. He still had a 5 minute stretch where he forgot about all that and started jacking up terrible shots, but it was a short stretch at least.

But a lot of his success was due to lifting bad defenders. You hit the playoffs, and very few of those free throw attempts will be there, both because of a tighter whistle and just having good defenders on him (and good help defenders). He was definitely hitting his open shots this game, which is nice since he's missed a good deal of those this year. That said, he was pretty open all game because of the terrible Philly defence. Another thing that won't be replicated.

Still, a good sign, not a bad one. Was active on the boards and passed well, though he intermittently has a good rebounding game and it never seems to translate long term. Won't be forming any conclusions from this game. Let's see if he can play efficiently, drive more than he shoots, limit bad shots and get to the free throw line against the Cavs on Wednesday, as a start.

[DanH]

Between FG and FT, Demar had 34 attempts to get his 35 points. The whistle is not a sustainable offensive strategy.

Well! that's not entirely fair. Usually you figure one possession for just under two free throws (and this game he had two and-ones). So that means his 10 free throws were only 4 possessions used. But there were his two turnovers as well. Overall, you are looking at 30 possessions used to get 35 points, a solid 117 ORTG on a high usage.

Let's not take away from his performance (it was solid). I do think the context (6ers LOL) is important, but the performance was solid.

[Joey]

DeMar shot just 3-17 against Jimmy Butler in the only game vs. Chicago this year. Butler's a disciplined defender who rarely bites on pump fakes, and doesn't crowd poor shooters on the perimeter. In a 7 game series, he'd render DeRozan completely useless.

.. and yet last year Demar was 34 for 73 against Chicago and Butler, for 46%, and 23.8ppg. I'm not worried.

[Joey]

Between FG and FT, Demar had 34 attempts to get his 35 points.

You do realize NO ONE actually counts stats like you just did right there, right? Lol

You're now faulting the guy for 10 Free Throw attempts? Unreal.

[Axel]

You do realize NO ONE actually counts stats like you just did right there, right? Lol

You're now faulting the guy for 10 Free Throw attempts? Unreal.

Perhaps they should. Points per shot, eFG%, TS%, all of these things are all different ways at looking at shooting efficiency. Total volume vs total out-point is a perfectly fair statistical model.

FTA is greatly influenced by the opponent, so when I see one player accounting for 30% of all FGA, I look at other things to see the whole picture. FTA within the team is great. FTA outside of the team isn't as great. Considering the issues surrounding Demar lately have been his atrocious shot selection and non-existent ball movement, his 30% FGA concerns me.

Our starting front court had 5 FGA. Our back-up turned starting PG (who used to be a pass-first PG) had 4 3PA alone and 8 FGA in total. The lack of balance in our attack (even when starting backups) is revolting.

[Joey]

Lol

[Nilanka]

.. and yet last year Demar was 34 for 73 against Chicago and Butler, for 46%, and 23.8ppg. I'm not worried.

DeMar was actually more disciplined with his shot selection last year. This year, it's hard to envision him not forcing his game.

[Axel]

Lol

Alright Joey, I'll meet you half way. I'll agree that the cup is half full if you agree that the cup is half full of battery acid.

[Axel]

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Lol

Joey, can you honestly say that you aren't worried that DD is turning into Rudy Gay?

I mean, 30% of all shots go to DD in the midst of what, at best, can be called an awful (long) slump (lowest FG% or TS% of his career). How does that not concern you?

While JV and Amir get 5 shots.

[raptors999]

Joey, can you honestly say that you aren't worried that DD is turning into Rudy Gay?

I mean, 30% of all shots go to DD in the midst of what, at best, can be called an awful (long) slump (lowest FG% or TS% of his career). How does that not concern you?

While JV and Amir get 5 shots.

Casey is obviously behind Gays chucking and is encouraging Demar's. Rather than spreading out the offence he force fed Demar against a practice squad. Raptors will only go as far as Demar and Lowry's Chucking takes them