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A couple of better games from DeRozan. Better efficiency, passing more and getting to the line in Game 2. Need some other guys to show up. Wonder what happened to Lowry? The team needs a sport psychologist or a hypnotherapist or something.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostCouldn't it just be that this team overachieved during the regular season?
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Didn't mean to imply that the Raptors don't deserve to be in the ECF.
What I mean is that we played well all season and won all of those games with no star players like you have on all of the remaining playoff teams. Like the star players on the other 3 teams are all in the top 5 players in the NBA. Our best player, Lowry probably is around the top 20 players maybe? So to have won 56 regular season games and to have grinded our way into the ECF is really quite the achievement and maybe an over achievement somewhat.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostDidn't mean to imply that the Raptors don't deserve to be in the ECF.
What I mean is that we played well all season and won all of those games with no star players like you have on all of the remaining playoff teams. Like the star players on the other 3 teams are all in the top 5 players in the NBA. Our best player, Lowry probably is around the top 20 players maybe? So to have won 56 regular season games and to have grinded our way into the ECF is really quite the achievement and maybe an over achievement somewhat.
If the Raptors had any sort of consistent offense, they could very well have stolen a game in Cleveland.
At least DeRozan has had a better series so far (how could he not, after those first two rounds), but it's the offense that's letting this team down. Many people predicted the ISO approach would fail in the playoffs, but against Cleveland the Raptors' shooting woes go well beyond that (actually getting decent ball movement).
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI think that sort of excuse is taking the easy way out. The bottom line is that Lowry has played like shit against Cleveland so far (1/15 3pt, more turnovers than assists) and the entire team has missed a ton of wide open shots, especially from beyond the arc.
If the Raptors had any sort of consistent offense, they could very well have stolen a game in Cleveland.
At least DeRozan has had a better series so far (how could he not, after those first two rounds), but it's the offense that's letting this team down. Many people predicted the ISO approach would fail in the playoffs, but against Cleveland the Raptors' shooting woes go well beyond that (actually getting decent ball movement).
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI think that sort of excuse is taking the easy way out. The bottom line is that Lowry has played like shit against Cleveland so far (1/15 3pt, more turnovers than assists) and the entire team has missed a ton of wide open shots, especially from beyond the arc.
If the Raptors had any sort of consistent offense, they could very well have stolen a game in Cleveland.
At least DeRozan has had a better series so far (how could he not, after those first two rounds), but it's the offense that's letting this team down. Many people predicted the ISO approach would fail in the playoffs, but against Cleveland the Raptors' shooting woes go well beyond that (actually getting decent ball movement).
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slaw wrote: View PostIf you're going to beat the Lebrons you need someone who can neutralize Lebron. You can't stop him but you need a guy who can throw up 30 if Lebron does, etc. When the Raps best player is a complete no-show, everything else is immaterial. The same story is playing out in the other conference final where Westbrook needs to cancel out Curry for the Thunder to have a chance. If you can't get by that hurdle, you lose. Full stop.Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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jimmie wrote: View PostAgreed. But the offense is not the (main) problem; they can't stop Cleveland from scoring, which is in turn leading to all sorts of offensive issues. I dislike Lebron intensely, but he's virtually unstoppable right now, and the role players on Cleveland are all also playing lights-out at the same time, which wasn't the case throughout the regular season. No excuses for Toronto's lack of execution, but not even GSW could beat the Cavs the way they're playing right now, and Toronto as a team is playing much worse than they have all season and arguably even in the Pacers and Heat series.
Against Cleveland it's 91.6.
The offense is a problem.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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LJ2 wrote: View PostGetting outclassed by a more talented team is an excuse? Lowry might be playing like crap, but unlike in the first two rounds the role players have been ineffective as well. Cleveland is playing some Spurs basketball with the movement and their defence has been smothering the Raptors. I think it has way more to do with them playing good D, than us playing poorly on offence.
I think they're getting their asses handed to them in the ECF because their star player is M.I.A. (and they're facing LBJ), not because they made it this far by overachieving.
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Barolt wrote: View PostSo far in the playoffs, we have a 98.4 offensive rating as a team. Which would've ranked 29th in the NBA during the regular season.
Against Cleveland it's 91.6.
The offense is a problem.Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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jimmie wrote: View PostAgain, reread the post. "Offense is not the (main) problem". You see that part in brackets? It matters. You don't need to respond to every one of my posts, but if you do, please at least read the post.
Playoffs: 98.4 ORtg, 103.4 DRtg.
Regular season: 107.0 ORtg, 102.7 DRtg.
Our defense has slipped, very slightly. Our offense has slipped massively.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostI actually think our offense has been a bigger problem than our defense in the playoffs.
Playoffs: 98.4 ORtg, 103.4 DRtg.
Regular season: 107.0 ORtg, 102.7 DRtg.
Our defense has slipped, very slightly. Our offense has slipped massively.Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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jimmie wrote: View PostAgreed. But the offense is not the (main) problem; they can't stop Cleveland from scoring, which is in turn leading to all sorts of offensive issues. I dislike Lebron intensely, but he's virtually unstoppable right now, and the role players on Cleveland are all also playing lights-out at the same time, which wasn't the case throughout the regular season. No excuses for Toronto's lack of execution, but not even GSW could beat the Cavs the way they're playing right now, and Toronto as a team is playing much worse than they have all season and arguably even in the Pacers and Heat series.
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