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  • Interview of Demar from after last night's game with the DR:

    DeMar DeRozan (Toronto Raptors)
    You were one of the leading scorers in Vegas and may have been one of the leading scorers tonight, what’s been working for you?
    Honestly, I’m a scorer in this league and that’s my game, but I try to go out and do both - you know, go out there and rebound, get assists and just do everything else other than score.

    What do you see from Anthony Davis playing with him every day? What have you realized from just seeing him a couple times a year?
    I mean, he’s a hell of a player. He’s creative, he can isolate, knock down the 15-footer and he definitely got a little more strength to him. He’s a lot stronger, and he’s going to be a problem.

    Talk a little bit about that stutter-step hesitation, its reminiscent about Kobe and Jordan, how much have they influenced your game?
    I grew up watching Jordan, and I grew up watching Kobe. I always watch film from them and take moves from them, especially the post game. At my position a lot of two guards don’t post up, and I try to be one of those guards. I don’t do it as much as they do, but I try to be one of those guards and just pull out a couple of moves.

    Did you talk to guys who have done the USA thing before about how they preserve themselves and how to stay fresh when the season comes around?
    Yeah, I know a lot of guys that did it. You just got to take care of yourself like you do during the season. You’ve got to eat right and get rest, especially when you get to countries where the time changes, get iced and a little bit of everything.
    Source: http://www.usab.com/news-events/news...public-62.aspx

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    • Good DD. Post up more.
      The name's Bond, James Bond.

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      • Axel wrote: View Post
        Waiters hasn't accomplished anything yet though. He has skills and could be good, but he hasn't done anything yet to show that he deserves any recognition.
        Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

        Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

        http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
        http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

        I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

        Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.

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        • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
          Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

          Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

          http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
          http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

          I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

          Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.
          I bet I could take any 35 games of John Salmons and make him look good.

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          • Mindlessness wrote: View Post
            I bet I could take any 35 games of John Salmons and make him look good.
            This was 4 years ago.
            http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...gment=&Month=7

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            • Mindlessness wrote: View Post
              this is also only 8 games. unless you think john salmons somehow played 35 games in a single month.

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              • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

                Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

                http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
                http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

                I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

                Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.
                here is ben gordans stats from his second year...his stats compare to Waiters, his advanced metrics compare and his usage is about identical too!
                http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...PerMode=Totals

                I guess you could say Ben Gordan is a better player than DD as well...

                EDIT: Here is Dions stats for comparaison
                http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...PerMode=Totals
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                • Oh, the Waiters discussion is still going on. Thought that would've died off a few months ago. Cool.

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                  • I don't understand how anyone is really going to sit here and say Waiters is better than DD right now. Maybe he will be in the future, and now playing alongside Lebron will probably make him look better than he is, but this convo is really ridiculous. Anyone who watches basketball knows at this point in their careers Dion is not better than DD. I can't believe we are actually arguing this because some random dude on espn says so by using one stat to prove it. Oh well to each his own. Everyone is free to believe what they want.
                    I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.

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                    • Random question. When's the next exhibition game for Team USA?
                      OG is our king

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                      • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                        Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

                        Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

                        http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
                        http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

                        I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

                        Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.
                        Bargnani 13. Case closed.
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                        • consmap wrote: View Post
                          Random question. When's the next exhibition game for Team USA?
                          Friday is their last before heading to Spain.
                          Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                          If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                          • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                            Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

                            Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

                            http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
                            http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

                            I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

                            Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.
                            Since my first reply didn't go into detail; here is a more detailed breakdown of why you make no sense and need to stop calling me ignorant.

                            First, using per36 for both players isn't fair since Demar plays 38 per game. You are effectively dropping all of Demar's stats while raising Waiters.

                            Second, since the article in question is talking about who's better next season, per36 isn't as accurate as per game. We aren't talking about whether Waiters will be good but has he been good.

                            Third, as the Bargnani 13 taught us, small sample size is misleading at best.

                            Finally the stats, Waiters scores 16 per game on 14 shots (while playing with an allstar PG). Not exactly good. His Off and Def Rtg's are bad. He turns the ball over too much for his usage. We don't need to talk about his win shares (they bad).

                            Waiters might become good. But he isn't there yet and certainly shouldn't be considered when discussing the top 10 SG in the league. So go ahead and explain why I'm ignorant.


                            http://www.basketball-reference.com/...tedi01&y2=2014
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                            If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                            • OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
                              Hasn't done anything?? Are you kidding me?

                              Over the last 35 games of this past season, Waiters boasted better per36 numbers than DD on better efficiency and more assists at the same usage...

                              http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base
                              http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.htm...asureType=Base

                              I will agree ahead of time that only using his last 35 games is not as good as a full season, but considering he is only in his second season, and that Cleveland is a mess, that stretch of games is very impressive and is an ok set to look at to project the kid's ability to play and contribute to a team.

                              Again, saying he hasn't done anything is just ignorant.

                              I've long held the belief - and still do - that DeRozan is not a natural talent. I took some shit before for that statement and probably will again but whatever. There is not question he has TALENT - everyone in the league does. But everything DD does comes through a lot of hard work and dedication. Waiters has immense natural talent and it shows the way he plays (side note: kind of how I feel about Bruno - that stroke is just naturally beautiful).

                              Maybe to give an analogy will show what I mean.

                              Everyone in school who had good grades were one of two people:
                              1) they either naturally just got it and floated by with top marks with minimal effort, or
                              2) they worked their asses off for every percent to get top marks.

                              Waiters is #1.
                              DeRozan is #2.


                              I was #1 in school. When I hit university I had no clue what to do and I struggled to get good grades because I didn't know how to work academically speaking. I wish I knew how to work because I probably would have done much better and not 'settled' for the program I did. Now the #2's of my life they did quite well in university and most did much harder programs with better marks to boot. Back to basketball for a moment, university is the NBA by the way. Now the #1's who learned to work at the academic level, they become your leaders in the 'real' world - CEO's, Dr's, lawyers, etc. etc. So the #1's who can combine #2 are your KD's, LBJ, Kobe's, MJ's.

                              If Waiters ever puts the work in I don't think he will reach the levels of greatness but I do think he will be much more successful than DD. However if he doesn't work his ass off, I see DD being better than him only for the fact DD won't quit. While I can't stand aspects of his game I do recognize the improvements he has made and hope they continue.


                              I'm not sure if this makes any sense but look forward to the inevitable: "YOU HATER! DeROZAN HAS TALENT YOU IDIOT!" which is not what I said BTW.

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                              • mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
                                I've long held the belief - and still do - that DeRozan is not a natural talent. I took some shit before for that statement and probably will again but whatever. There is not question he has TALENT - everyone in the league does. But everything DD does comes through a lot of hard work and dedication. Waiters has immense natural talent and it shows the way he plays (side note: kind of how I feel about Bruno - that stroke is just naturally beautiful).

                                Maybe to give an analogy will show what I mean.

                                Everyone in school who had good grades were one of two people:
                                1) they either naturally just got it and floated by with top marks with minimal effort, or
                                2) they worked their asses off for every percent to get top marks.

                                Waiters is #1.
                                DeRozan is #2.


                                I was #1 in school. When I hit university I had no clue what to do and I struggled to get good grades because I didn't know how to work academically speaking. I wish I knew how to work because I probably would have done much better and not 'settled' for the program I did. Now the #2's of my life they did quite well in university and most did much harder programs with better marks to boot. Back to basketball for a moment, university is the NBA by the way. Now the #1's who learned to work at the academic level, they become your leaders in the 'real' world - CEO's, Dr's, lawyers, etc. etc. So the #1's who can combine #2 are your KD's, LBJ, Kobe's, MJ's.

                                If Waiters ever puts the work in I don't think he will reach the levels of greatness but I do think he will be much more successful than DD. However if he doesn't work his ass off, I see DD being better than him only for the fact DD won't quit. While I can't stand aspects of his game I do recognize the improvements he has made and hope they continue.


                                I'm not sure if this makes any sense but look forward to the inevitable: "YOU HATER! DeROZAN HAS TALENT YOU IDIOT!" which is not what I said BTW.
                                This sums it up perfectly. I will add that there is also a # 3. The one who is very smart and things come easy for them...but they don't have enough of a clue to do any of the work and thus remove the chance of even getting to University.
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