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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Wow. DeRozan is many things, but difficult to coach isn't one of them. And i'm pretty sure his teammates love to play w/ him.

    The guy talks like DeRozan is some kind of a problem child like a JR Smith. I'm guessing he's basing his opinion on DeRozan sitting on the bench by himself after committing his 5th foul yesterday?? LOL


    Who is this guy even?! Geez I've never even heard of him.
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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Who is this guy even?! Geez I've never even heard of him.
    About...oh I dunno, 15ish years ago or so (??hard to remember) he was a well respected "insider" who was believed to have quality "sources"....

    I imagine he lost all respect/credibility over the years because most of his sources either faded from the NBA scene or never existed in the first place.

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    Quote Raptorsnz wrote: View Post

    Great article.

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    Just a previous nobody, trying to get back into the spotlight by making stupid snide comments.

    Love that ESPN article!

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    Quote Raptorsnz wrote: View Post
    ďI love my team,Ē Lowry said. ďIíll tell anybody that firsthand. I really appreciate being [here] every day with these guys. Every day I look forward to talking to them and joking with them and having fun with them because itís rare that you get a team like this. So you take advantage of the full opportunity that you have. Iím taking advantage of the opportunity that I have this year with these guys.Ē
    Lowry, please give the Raptors a home team discount when negotiating salaries.. $8M/yr would be wonderful

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Lowry, please give the Raptors a home team discount when negotiating salaries.. $8M/yr would be wonderful
    Not wonderful, absolutely freaking gorgeous sunshine and rainbows.
    The name's Bond, James Bond.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Lowry, please give the Raptors a home team discount when negotiating salaries.. $8M/yr would be wonderful
    Can we pay him in pancakes? He likes pancakes.

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    Quote consmap wrote: View Post
    Can we pay him in pancakes? He likes pancakes.
    $6M/yr plus free pancake breakfast every day?
    The name's Bond, James Bond.

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    Quote RaptorsFohEva wrote: View Post
    $6M/yr plus free pancake breakfast every day?
    Throw in a driver and a cook on MLSE's tab, haha.

    ...and free Daycare I guess, if his wife wants some time off.

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    Quote phiLLy wrote: View Post
    Throw in a driver and a cook on MLSE's tab, haha.

    ...and free Daycare I guess, if his wife wants some time off.
    So, 6M/yr, with a free pancake breakfast every day, a driver and cook and free daycare.

    For...say, 3 years with a team option 4th.

    Ring up Masai!
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    mmmm...pancakes

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    Quote RaptorsFohEva wrote: View Post
    $6M/yr plus free pancake breakfast every day?
    I'd prefer non-fat Lowry on the Raptors.. so I'd prefer to pay him more and pass on the free pancake breakfast

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I'd prefer non-fat Lowry on the Raptors.. so I'd prefer to pay him more and pass on the free pancake breakfast
    Okay I've got a healthy alternative, If Lowry signs on the dotted line for 6mill/yr He gets a lifetime supply of Celery

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    About...oh I dunno, 15ish years ago or so (??hard to remember) he was a well respected "insider" who was believed to have quality "sources"....

    I imagine he lost all respect/credibility over the years because most of his sources either faded from the NBA scene or never existed in the first place.
    Yeah 15 years ago sounds about right.

    I honestly didn't even know he was still reporting. Maybe we should ask Ahmad Rashad what he thinks too lol

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    Quote MACK11 wrote: View Post
    Okay I've got a healthy alternative, If Lowry signs on the dotted line for 6mill/yr He gets a lifetime supply of Celery
    Gotta be careful not to exceed the celery cap though.

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    Seriously though, 10M per year would be great. With the cap jumping up, I'm not nearly as concerned about re-signing him as I was at the start of this year.

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    From ESPN, http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...e-nba-playoffs

    The insights of analytics are constantly changing because the market is constantly changing. As teams smarten up about the payoffs of certain shots, they'll become more sought after on the open market. It's Economics 101. And as demand for certain types of players rises, so, too, will the price of those players.

    At some point, the 3-point shooting bubble will burst and other shots will become more valuable. There is a natural cycle to these things. In the same way that players with high on-base percentages ceased to be a market inefficiency after "Moneyball" became a national bestseller, guys like Kyle Korver will be making $10 million annually, not the current $6 million. And then the market will react.

    And soon, the midrange shot won't be passť for long.

    "That's the very nature of market dynamics," Morey says. "Its question is not 'What is the best shot?' It's 'What is the best relative to what everyone else thinks?' That's the challenge that you're trying to solve."

    Right now, the market doesn't regard a midrange shooter like Aldridge. But that can change. The NBA is a copycat league. If the Blazers beat the Rockets in this series thanks to Aldridge's midrange game and eventually make a run at a championship? Soon enough Aldridge will be a trailblazer, regardless of whether he plays for Portland.
    I made a thread about this sometime in Decemberish.

    I think DD's midrange game has value, especially as defenses move to take away the paint and the three.

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    Quote stooley wrote: View Post
    From ESPN, http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...e-nba-playoffs



    I made a thread about this sometime in Decemberish.

    I think DD's midrange game has value, especially as defenses move to take away the paint and the three.
    I agree. His midrange game has value, if it is used in that way, as an outlet from a paint/three attack, used in situations where the defense has buckled and the midrange shot is open. Used in isolation, it can be detrimental instead.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    I agree. His midrange game has value, if it is used in that way, as an outlet from a paint/three attack, used in situations where the defense has buckled and the midrange shot is open. Used in isolation, it can be detrimental instead.
    I think LMA takes quite a few mid range isos though. It's more a situation of spreading the floor I think. The more places where your team can attack from, the less predictable you are and the less an opponent is able to plan for you.

    Mind you, the team needs to also have sufficient 3 point shooting and an inside presence, but I think the Raptors do. I was looking at some chart and the raptors are in the bottom third of the league in mid range jump shots taken

    The mid-range shot, like the rest of basketball, is a grey area.

    Portland ranks in the top 3 teams for mid-range jumpshots taken, and Aldridge alone has taken more than the Rockets have this year, but Portland's still winning the series right now.

    Now, I'm not saying DD is LMA, because he's not, just expanding on the discussion.
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