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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    A lot of Ross problems on defense are related to Casey's defensive scheme. He is being overly aggressive on close outs and BKN is blowing by him. Casey should relax the defense and make the Nets shoot. Three Nets players are shooting 50% because they can just blow by on close outs or pump fake fouls.Give the Nets space make them shoot.DD and Lowry are having D problems too.

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    Yes, all the players on our team can be better defensively.... That's obvious. BUT at least DD and Lowry bring other things to the table (scoring and playmaking). Ross hasn't done anything at all.

    This season is about assessing who deserves to be apart of the core moving forward....Ross needs to grow up very quickly....no more excuses

    Btw jumping for pump fakes and losing people your guarding is on the player NOT the coach. Please stop with the excuses....I thought we stopped making excuses for players after we got rid of Bargnani.

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    He isn't very quick, I noticed that. I thought I was the only one, every American 'expert' says the only thing Toronto should be feared for is the quickness of Ross and derozan. They say they are quick off the dribble and dunk on the fast break every game. As raps fans we know that's not true
    His first step is pretty bad yeh, also has poor lateral quickness which is one of the major reasons he's been a pylon defensively his whole career, he'll certainly never be a stopper, but hopefully continue to improve. Ross is far more athletic than he is, but obviously that hasn't meant anything in this series!
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    It is on the player but the over defending is on the coach. We're defending the Nets like they have been drilling shots all night in the first quarter. Relax the defense and Ross will look better.

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    Essentially the Raptors are playing fourth quarter defense right from the start.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    At least the clowns like OldSkoolCool that think we should start Ross and get a 3+D small forward instead of DeMar can shut the fuck up now.

    We'd be down 3-0 and getting the floor wiped with us if we didn't have a scorer like him. Shooting percentage may not be great right now, but he's scoring 24 points on 18 shots (1.33 PPS) because he can get to the FT Line like nothing (leads the entire playoffs in makes and attempts). It's not an ability you can just brush aside and say "well he only scores a lot cause of his free throws", yeah no shit, free throws are HUGE in basketball.
    Come on man, it's comments like this that make this thread hardly readable. You could still get your point across without calling anyone out attempting to resurrect old arguments.
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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Come on man, it's comments like this that make this thread hardly readable. You could still get your point across without calling anyone out attempting to resurrect old arguments.
    Lol I blocked him...

    But that post is really funny

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    He can go fuck himself to be honest. This dude sent me a PM telling me I'm a piece of shit so the gloves are off at this point.
    Yeah!
    Punch him through the computer monitor!!!
    Bring back the physical game and send the softies home.

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    Quote MACK11 wrote: View Post
    Yeah!
    Punch him through the computer monitor!!!
    Actually it's hard to type with gloves on so I had to take them off to send these messages

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    A lot of Ross problems on defense are related to Casey's defensive scheme. He is being overly aggressive on close outs and BKN is blowing by him. Casey should relax the defense and make the Nets shoot. Three Nets players are shooting 50% because they can just blow by on close outs or pump fake fouls.Give the Nets space make them shoot.DD and Lowry are having D problems too.

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    I can possibly buy into this. But let's not forget that both Paul pierce and KG are old school and actual good shooters from midrange, despite that shot dying in today's game. I think id rather take my chances with leaving lebron open for midrange shots rather than PP or KG. Even dWill is particularly deadly from midrange at least on the right side.

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    Edit-Wrong thread

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    He can go fuck himself to be honest. This dude sent me a PM telling me I'm a piece of shit so the gloves are off at this point.
    Well then don't write comments that make you seem like a piece of shit lol

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    Geezus, what the hell did I miss?!

    Easy does it boys. Everybody reread the Forum Rules if you need too (you know who I'm talking too).

    iman, its fine to disagree, even vehemently at that, we encourage and applaud passion; but you need to watch the way you're talking to people.
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    Quote Mr.Z wrote: View Post
    Well then don't write comments that make you seem like a piece of shit lol

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    He sent that to me long before I posted that comment (ie. over a week ago).

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Geezus, what the hell did I miss?!

    Easy does it boys. Everybody reread the Forum Rules if you need too (you know who I'm talking too).

    iman, its fine to disagree, even vehemently at that, we encourage and applaud passion; but you need to watch the way you're talking to people.
    I'm done, OSK has me blocked so that's the end of that.

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    Quote JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
    One thing I noticed about DD is that he's not quick, he doesn't have that first step or can't run down the court like Ross which is what negatively impacts his game a lot imo, he would be so much more better with quickness.


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    I think with Demar, it always depends, I just don't think he knows how to use his first step (not explosive but can be effective at times), he can be quick in motion coming off the elbow screen, but rather slow in iso face up cos he doesn't have the advanced dribble to match that "okay" speed to get by his man quick enough, but he's very effective in PnR motion cos he can find that little gap he can drive right at it, not blow by but quick enough to take it strong by his man or the screen defender and aggressively quick enough to drive and draw the shoulder bump for contact.

    I think Ross tho, his blazing first step slows down in second gear, cos when he blows by at times, he doesn't accelerate to the hole, he slows down and then kick it back out.
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    Quote fredericklove wrote: View Post
    I think with Demar, it always depends, I just don't think he knows how to use his first step (not explosive but can be effective at times), he can be quick in motion coming off the elbow screen, but rather slow in iso face up cos he doesn't have the advanced dribble to match that "okay" speed to get by his man quick enough, but he's very effective in PnR motion cos he can find that little gap he can drive right at it, not blow by but quick enough to take it strong by his man or the screen defender and aggressively quick enough to drive and draw the shoulder bump for contact.

    I think Ross tho, his blazing first step slows down in second gear, cos when he blows by at times, he doesn't accelerate to the hole, he slows down and then kick it back out.
    Being able to change speeds is HUGE.
    T Ross has a lot of potential, just needs to be more polished all around

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    DD's D on JJ in the 4th was great. Shooting was terrible though.

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    Quote imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    DD's D on JJ in the 4th was great. Shooting was terrible though.
    DD's D sounds funny.
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    I am the only one who thinks DeMar has improved significantly on the defensive end? I mean, he's no stopper, but he seems to do a great job of contesting shots and staying in front of his man. To be honest, DeRozan has done a great job in defending in the post, its just half the time, JV and help-side isn't coming quick enough.

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