Hey Multi, are you and Dunkin twins?? hehehe
What happened to Buddha?? i havent seen his posts in a long time.
What level should he be at in terms of stats? What do you think?
I personally think his scoring, rebounding, assists, and 3 pt % should be wayyyyyyy higher. He can't stretch the defense until he learns how to shoot from distance.
Derozan's 16/4/2 (rounding) are acceptable numbers for a second year project guy that has absolutely nothing around him and are right about what I expected. Also, you have to remember that he had a horrible Nov/Dec. Since then, his scoring has been ~18.5-19/game. The assists are an issue but that is a systemic problem with this team.
My expectations for next year? I think he can score more efficiently so I expect his PPG to stay in the 18-19 range. I can live with 4 rebs and 3 assists. Those numbers would make him one of the better two guards in the league. The big issue is will his defence improve. That's the main deficiency in his game and he needs to get better there but to say he has disappointed this year is nonsense.
not really, kobe in his prime was 30/6/7. Wade in his prime was 30/7/5. Kobe in his 2nd year avg. 16/2/3, because Fisher, Fox, Eddie Jones, Van Exel and Shaq were all on that team. But Demar's 2nd year? Only Bargs. Im not saying he should be good or better than Kobe, but given the circumstances, i expected him to do more, much like the expectations everybody has put on Bargs.
If you dont expect the best out of your players, then youre just burying them in the waters of mediocrity. Of course you always expect your players to become the best that they can be, demand is another thing.
did the miami heat fans "expect" dwade to average 24/6/5 in his second year? of course they did. they drafted him 5th overall, in a team which had no clear-cut starting SG except him. Demar's minutes dramatically increased this season from last, from 21mins to 34. so im expecting his number would dramatically increase as well, and 20/5/5 is a bit dramatic. sure, maybe a little bit high too. im just saying he should be doing more, but im happy with his progression.
If DeMar was 20/5/5 on O and continued to improve on D, anyone who wanted more would be an unrealistic fool, in my humble opinion.
Blocks and steals are just like scoring. Scoring, unto itself, is great, because you need to score to win, but just scoring 20 points isn't good enough. You need to know HOW you scored those 20 points. Were they forced? Were they within the offense? Was it efficient? Mike James averaged 20 ppg his last year with the Raptors, but how valuable were those 20 ppg?
As for DeRozan, I think the vast majority of people are pleased with his progress, which can be evidenced by the comments on this thread. That's one of the highlights many people point to in this season. DeRozan and Davis' progression. As I pointed out earlier, this thread was basically a reactionary one because Multipaul was getting upset with all the Bargnani bashing, so he attacked someone he knows is well liked by the fans.
for next season, im hoping he avgs 20/5/5 but i dont expect him to. just because im expecting the raps to get a scoring PG/SF and a defensive big which will probably give more opportunity for bargs to score. i think this was demar's opportunity to make a mark, even if the raps make him a franchise player next year, i dont think he'll get the same opportunity as this year just because the pieces that the raps will add next season are probably going to eat into his shot attempts.