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    Default Playoff failure: Will this define DD?

    I love the growth of DD. My concern is that his growth has plateaued. Certainly the failure collectively as a team in the playoffs should not just define DD's career but you cannot ignore it either. DD has improved in the regular season year over year in my eyes including defensive improvements this year. The one minor issue I have is the appearance of lacking that killer instinct. Though I expect DD to be back next year MU should listen to any trade offers for DD. DD is probably our most untouchable player. I am just concerned that mentally he will accept losing in the playoffs..I hope not. .mental toughness is the one area that I really would like to see improved next year. Perhaps a factor in this regard is DC , our idiot coach. If he doesn't get out of the first round soon he could fall into that good but not great category career wise.

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    I love the growth of DD. My concern is that his growth has plateaued. Certainly the failure collectively as a team in the playoffs should not just define DD's career but you cannot ignore it either. DD has improved in the regular season year over year in my eyes including defensive improvements this year. The one minor issue I have is the appearance of lacking that killer instinct. Though I expect DD to be back next year MU should listen to any trade offers for DD. DD is probably our most untouchable player. I am just concerned that mentally he will accept losing in the playoffs..I hope not. .mental toughness is the one area that I really would like to see improved next year. Perhaps a factor in this regard is DC , our idiot coach. If he doesn't get out of the first round soon he could fall into that good but not great category career wise.
    What part of DeMar's career has ever given you the opinion that he will ever be satisfied with something less than the best

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    Quote Jrice9 wrote: View Post
    What part of DeMar's career has ever given you the opinion that he will ever be satisfied with something less than the best
    maybe the fact that he consistently takes the worst shot in basketball?

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    What part of DeMar's career has ever given you the opinion that he will ever be satisfied with something less than the best
    Being satisfied and winning in the playoffs are two different things. Of course he won't be satisfied with losing in the playoffs....

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    Playoff failure can't define a player after two years with the same coach on a developing team.

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    If we hire a new coach, make the playoffs and lose in the first round again, and DD doesn't play that great, than we can start talking about playoffs defining him.
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    Playoffs failure has nothing to do with DD and it is reflection of the whole team starting from MU to the last guy on the bench. Lets not make it about one player.

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    Playoffs failure has nothing to do with DD and it is reflection of the whole team starting from MU to the last guy on the bench. Lets not make it about one player.
    Agreed.

    And btw, isn't Lowry our best player? so why focus on DD?
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    Derozan just has that crazy work ethic that rubs off. You want to keep him on a young team. People forget that we are still building and learning ... This team wont be a contender till 3 to 4 years. By then Derozan will have become a much more mentally strong leader. Until then enjoy the ride.

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    maybe the fact that he consistently takes the worst shot in basketball?
    That would be Lowry

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    Playoffs failure has nothing to do with DD and it is reflection of the whole team starting from MU to the last guy on the bench. Lets not make it about one player.
    It has at least a little to do with him. Is he solely responsible no? But has he done anything to impress? No.

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    Q: You know what the common denominator for a lot of losing Raptors teams is?

    A: DD playing a large role in the offense

    *Drops the mic
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    DeRozan is far too easily neutralized by long, mobile defenders. It's plagued him for years. This has little to do with coaching, and much to do with individual limitations.

    He doesn't have the range to keep defenders honest, and doesn't have the ball skills to blow by crowding defenders.
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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    I love the growth of DD. My concern is that his growth has plateaued. Certainly the failure collectively as a team in the playoffs should not just define DD's career but you cannot ignore it either. DD has improved in the regular season year over year in my eyes including defensive improvements this year. The one minor issue I have is the appearance of lacking that killer instinct. Though I expect DD to be back next year MU should listen to any trade offers for DD. DD is probably our most untouchable player. I am just concerned that mentally he will accept losing in the playoffs..I hope not. .mental toughness is the one area that I really would like to see improved next year. Perhaps a factor in this regard is DC , our idiot coach. If he doesn't get out of the first round soon he could fall into that good but not great category career wise.
    Bold 1 - I think he has the killer instinct on offence. What he lacks is the awareness to not force the shots. He wants to take that dagger shot, and will; problem is, the shot will be well defended and wont go in.

    Bold 2 - I don't think DD is anywhere near "untouchable". JV is really the only untouchable imo due to his position/potential. DD is a very good player, but I think he is very tradeable since the SG position is much easier to fill. Plus his lack of 3 point shooting makes him a curious fit at times in the modern NBA.
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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Q: You know what the common denominator for a lot of losing Raptors teams is?

    A: DD playing a large role in the offense

    *Drops the mic
    What is the solution? He clearly is an important component if our team...

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    I think one thing you have to consider is that DD should by all accounts have a very long career ahead of him and at some point he is going stop being viewed as the number one option on this or any team he is on and more correctly as a role player. I'm thinking he should have an Igoudala-lite career. Much like Igoudala, nobody judges his or other role players careers based on playoffs because they shouldn't really bare the responsibility of carrying a team.

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    Quote OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Q: You know what the common denominator for a lot of losing Raptors teams is?

    A: DD playing a large role in the offense

    *Drops the mic
    Well, okay. He's played a large role in the offense for what, 4 years? The last two have been the most successful seasons in franchise history.

    So:

    Q: You know what the common denominator for the two most successful season in Raptors franchise history is?

    A: DD playing a large role in the offense

    *Drops the mic

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    I think one thing you have to consider is that DD should by all accounts have a very long career ahead of him and at some point he is going stop being viewed as the number one option on this or any team he is on and more correctly as a role player. I'm thinking he should have an Igoudala-lite career. Much like Igoudala, nobody judges his or other role players careers based on playoffs because they shouldn't really bare the responsibility of carrying a team.
    A couple of big problems with this forecast:

    - Iguodala-lite in terms of production maybe, but not in terms of money. DD is going to get PAID his next contract.

    - Iguodala was an elite defender. Almost every 3rd option type role player, which seems to be the consensus of what DD's ideal role should be, brings fantastic defence to the table. DD doesn't. This being the case, I'm not sure exactly how you fit Derozan's skills onto a good team.

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    Absolutely

    if he was a second or third year player i'd say no but hes been in the league long enough that he is what he is at this point.
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    Derozan is inefficient first option that gives you nothing on defensive end. That's what he is.

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