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    Default Raptors Collapse Continues....

    13-12 in last 25. 1-3 in last 4. A head coach who is unwilling or unable to adjust and lacks the balls to call out KL and DD when they are hurting the team. What gives? I don't want to go all GLF BUT .....we are imploding before our very eyes. The experts were right that the fast start was just an aberration due to the soft schedule.

    Could we possibly not make 50 wins??? If any poster has the ears of DC or MU I strongly encourage you to call a team meeting where these issues can be vetted in the presence of DC. If the implosion continues what direction do we need to look towards for next season? It may not yet be a fait accompli that we are going to fade into the night this season but it looks more and more probable.

    The fans of Toronto deserve better.

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    Enjoy the journey.

    All this season is doing is wrapping up BC's vision/business.

    Changes are coming....I believe.
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    I'm hoping that MU is just riding out what BC put together long enough to assemble/develop the pieces he wants, at which point he will bring in the coach he wants. I'm hoping that he never expected this team to make it far in the playoffs. I'm hoping he doesn't expect Lowry/Derozan to be the centerpieces of his new team.

    He has the casual fan on the bandwagon now, which is always good for the team. He has some good talent on the roster he may want to keep long term and a coach that isn't going to over achieve and prevent him from making a move. Next couple off seasons will either prove he has a plan and long term goal or will reveal him to be a lucky man.

    I really hope it's the long term goal one

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    but but Lowry is an all-star.
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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    Enjoy the journey.

    All this season is doing is wrapping up BC's vision/business.

    Changes are coming....I believe.
    MU has been here for 2 years ... doesn't get some share of the blame if the product is that weak ?

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    MU has been here for 2 years ... doesn't get some share of the blame if the product is that weak ?
    No. The only blame is not starting to make the team his own sooner. But we all know he tried and fate/luck had different ideas.

    The coach is BCs and the starting lineup is BCs.

    Masai has out his imprint on the team but not his stamp.
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    Quote mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    No.

    The coach is BCs and the starting lineup is BCs.
    So this past 2 years has been an evaluation period for MU !!! I just don't think even MU will agree with your statement and will like to take more credit for the wining season.

    Based on what you are saying, BC should be credited with the best wining season in this franchise history.

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    MU has been here for 2 years ... doesn't get some share of the blame if the product is that weak ?
    He's patient and moving slowly, which I'm fine with.

    If changes aren't made, a .500 record is a much more accurate reflection of this team's quality than the first 2 months of the year imho. As well as adjustments opposition has made and the increasing slide towards bad offense, I think the first couple months were a reflection of the "continuity advantage" the Raptors started out with while other teams worked to incorporate key new pieces, new coaches, etc. (there have also been some huge injuries). That continuity advantage is completely gone as we see teams as overhauled as Cleveland picking up steam now while the Raptors fall off the pace dramatically.

    A .500 record on the year would put them 7th in the East.

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    Quote hotfuzz wrote: View Post
    but but Lowry is an all-star.
    2014 Lowry, yes

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    He's patient and moving slowly, which I'm fine with.
    I am fine with that too but as I said, MU himself would want more credit for this team. We can not just say this is BC's coach and BC's team hence what ever happen has nothing to do with MU.

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    So this past 2 years has been an evaluation period for MU !!! I just don't think even MU will agree with your statement and will like to take more credit for the wining season.

    Based on what you are saying, BC should be credited with the best wining season in this franchise history.
    Those are some assumptions you've made.

    The past two years has been an evaluation period BY Masai.

    Masai is directly responsible for the gay trade and the lucky outcome. So Masai deserves some of the credit but so does BC. BC credit is merely for bringing the glasses, cutlery, and plates to the table. Masai is the one who set the table. You can be guaranteed Gay and Bargnani would still be a part of the roster with BC at the helm.

    I do not believe and I have no means to prove the statement that this is the type of basketball Masai looks to play. He is playing the hand he was dealt and I believe he went all in. This summer he will deal himself a new hand I think.
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    I do not believe and I have no means to prove the statement that this is the type of basketball Masai looks to play. He is playing the hand he was dealt and I believe he went all in. This summer he will deal himself a new hand I think.
    Lets just agree to disagree on this. I will finish my comment by saying MU has had plenty of assets and time to make the changes he wanted. He was not put in a team with no draft pick, or no cap space or no young talent.
    He had the means, the assets, the tools to make his changes but choose in purpose to stay with this group.

    I do think MU believes in these guys and in his coach and thinks he has the foundations in place and just needs to make the last move of brining one more All Star to T.O.

    But again, we can agree to disagree on this.

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    Blow it up. Start over.

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    Lets just agree to disagree on this. I will finish my comment by saying MU has had plenty of assets and time to make the changes he wanted. He was not put in a team with no draft pick, or no cap space or no young talent.
    He had the means, the assets, the tools to make his changes but choose in purpose to stay with this group.

    I do think MU believes in these guys and in his coach and thinks he has the foundations in place and just needs to make the last move of brining one more All Star to T.O.

    But again, we can agree to disagree on this.
    He took over the raps with no pick and no cap space.

    He has yet to have cap space and he has made just one pick.

    He had the means, assets, and tools to make changes but he wasn't willing to give assets away for pennies on the dollar.

    The only thing he has had is young talent - which was put there by BC.

    So yeah, agree to disagree it is.
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    The dead weight is gone this offseason. We will have cap space to make a big move, and we have 3 first rounders in the next 2 years, and I don't think we're going to use them all.

    This summer will be MU's time to push the team where he wants them to go.
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    Wooooww....the McDonalds team members going at each other on this forum.

    Oh boy, now I've seen everything - even McDonalds can't cheer us up atm :-( noooooooo!

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    Lets just agree to disagree on this. I will finish my comment by saying MU has had plenty of assets and time to make the changes he wanted. He was not put in a team with no draft pick, or no cap space or no young talent.
    He had the means, the assets, the tools to make his changes but choose in purpose to stay with this group.

    I do think MU believes in these guys and in his coach and thinks he has the foundations in place and just needs to make the last move of brining one more All Star to T.O.

    But again, we can agree to disagree on this.
    We have everything short of actual emails and recorded phone conversations proving that Lowry was on his way to New York. In other words, this team was being torn apart. If I was running this site, disregarding this fact would be ban-worthy, but hey, I'm not.

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    Quote Zainab wrote: View Post
    Wooooww....the McDonalds team members going at each other on this forum.

    Oh boy, now I've seen everything - even McDonalds can't cheer us up atm :-( noooooooo!
    That's the McFallout of this giant McSlide our Raps are on The main culprit seems to be the McCoach.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    That's the McFallout of this giant McSlide our Raps are on The main culprit seems to be the McCoach.
    That and McRoss.
    That's our coach, He's such a idiot!

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    Spurs lost to Utah the other night. Blow it up. Yes, this sounds ridiculous but so does everyone fretting about losing a fourth game in five nights to a Western powerhouse. Let this team grow.

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