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    Default Why was JV so terrible today ?

    I know Casey sucks and I tired to support him all season but today he was absolutely weak and was out coached.

    There was no excuse for NOT playing J.J. and I think he could have help with the boards and defending Paul Pierce.

    That being said why J.V. was so bad today ? We needed him today and he was just too soft and too lost !!! What is going on with this guy ? This is the 2nd play offs that he just disappears. If we want to have any chance against the Washington we need him to step up.

    So disappointed in J.V. right now.

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    What do you mean by terrible?

    That he didn't score alot? He barely touched the ball and had to feed himself off of putbacks.

    That he was bad on the boards? Actually he was okay, and was focused on boxing out his guy more than anything else from what I saw.

    His defense? Yeah, he had his faults there. PnR defense as usual.

    But honestly, once crunch time came around he didn't get the opportunity to prove his worth. In a game where rebounding killed the team he didn't play again.
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    Quote consmap wrote: View Post
    What do you mean by terrible?

    That he didn't score alot? He barely touched the ball and had to feed himself off of putbacks.

    That he was bad on the boards? Actually he was okay, and was focused on boxing out his guy more than anything else from what I saw.

    His defense? Yeah, he had his faults there. PnR defense as usual.

    But honestly, once crunch time came around he didn't get the opportunity to prove his worth. In a game where rebounding killed the team he didn't play again.
    Lol, don't even respond. Clearly just trolling.

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    Are you serious? JV was 3/7 today (43%) with 8 boards (in only 24 minutes). Not a great game sure, but nothing to scoff at.

    Our guards (besides Vasquez) on the other hand were horrendous. Lowry, Ross, DeRozan and Lou combined for 15/57 shooting (26%). That's what lost us the game, not JV

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    I know Casey sucks and I tired to support him all season but today he was absolutely weak and was out coached.

    There was no excuse for NOT playing J.J. and I think he could have help with the boards and defending Paul Pierce.

    That being said why J.V. was so bad today ? We needed him today and he was just too soft and too lost !!! What is going on with this guy ? This is the 2nd play offs that he just disappears. If we want to have any chance against the Washington we need him to step up.

    So disappointed in J.V. right now.
    he wasn't particularly great but far from the worst, and I didn't really think he was even *bad* relative to everyone else. also he started last playoffs with 3 straight double-doubles so you're clearly just talking out of your ass.

    Maybe you should focus your disappointment on our guards.

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    He's a scrub let's trade him for more chuckers

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    Quote tDotted wrote: View Post
    Are you serious? JV was 3/7 today with 8 boards (in only 24 minutes). Not a great game sure, but nothing to scoff at.

    Our guards (besides Vasquez) on the other hand were horrendous. Lowry, Ross, DeRozan and Lou combined for 15/57 shooting. That's what lost us the game, not JV
    Vasquez was horrendous too. Except now people will remember he hit a couple of big shots, and forget that he was a total negative for every other second he was on the court on both ends.

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    That's how DD, KL, TR, and LW shot the ball.

    AJ and PP got slaughtered on the boards.

    JV did not have a great game, but he also only played 24 minutes. Six other guys played over 30. So many other things wrong right now...

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Vasquez was horrendous too. Except now people will remember he hit a couple of big shots, and forget that he was a total negative for every other second he was on the court on both ends.
    Vasquez was 4/6 from the field with a steal and 3 assists. He scored efficiently so I gave him a pass.

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    Quote tDotted wrote: View Post
    Vasquez was 4/6 from the field with a steal and 3 assists. He scored efficiently so I gave him a pass.
    Because he hit 3 shots in the 4th quarter, I believe with his two 3pters created by others....

    But he couldn't impact the game at all any other times. His lack of speed hurts him so much. Terrible on D. And with the Wiz pressuring high, he spent most of the time with the ball in his hands backing up to halfcourt because he couldn't break the pressure. So our backup PG was totally useless with the ball in his hands as he couldn't create for himself or others.

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    Quote tDotted wrote: View Post
    Are you serious? JV was 3/7 today (43%) with 8 boards (in only 24 minutes). Not a great game sure, but nothing to scoff at.

    Our guards (besides Vasquez) on the other hand were horrendous. Lowry, Ross, DeRozan and Lou combined for 15/57 shooting (26%). That's what lost us the game, not JV
    8 boards, most of them are rebounds that go directly to him.

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    Quote peanutwoozle wrote: View Post
    8 boards, most of them are rebounds that go directly to him.
    As opposed to directly to the Wizards...

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    As opposed to directly to the Wizards...
    as opposed to others going for them while he just stands there.

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    Quote consmap wrote: View Post
    What do you mean by terrible?

    That he didn't score alot? He barely touched the ball and had to feed himself off of putbacks.

    That he was bad on the boards? Actually he was okay, and was focused on boxing out his guy more than anything else from what I saw.

    His defense? Yeah, he had his faults there. PnR defense as usual.

    But honestly, once crunch time came around he didn't get the opportunity to prove his worth. In a game where rebounding killed the team he didn't play again.

    Right from the front page from one of most respected Raptors writers in Canada:

    "Stinker. Was pushed and shoved by Nene and Gortat, who both have serious center-mass which Valanciunas doesn’t. Offensively, don’t think I saw more than a play called for him, which meant that he was non-existent on defense and intimidated on defense. Didn’t even make up for his poor game by playing help defense. Could not deal with Seraphin either, who stepped out on him and JV was unable to cope. Benched in OT despite the Raptors getting slaughtered on the glass."

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    Quote JimiCliff wrote: View Post
    Lol, don't even respond. Clearly just trolling.
    Not trolling, just stating facts ...

    "Stinker. Was pushed and shoved by Nene and Gortat, who both have serious center-mass which Valanciunas doesn’t. Offensively, don’t think I saw more than a play called for him, which meant that he was non-existent on defense and intimidated on defense. Didn’t even make up for his poor game by playing help defense. Could not deal with Seraphin either, who stepped out on him and JV was unable to cope. Benched in OT despite the Raptors getting slaughtered on the glass."

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    he wasn't particularly great but far from the worst, and I didn't really think he was even *bad* relative to everyone else. also he started last playoffs with 3 straight double-doubles so you're clearly just talking out of your ass.

    Maybe you should focus your disappointment on our guards.
    The guards were disappointing, Casey was awful, JJ should have played. These are facts and no one is going to deny them. But it is also a fact that J.V. did not SHOW UP today.

    We need him to play big. We need him to control the boards and we need him to be a defensive anchor in these series. I have posted Zarar's analysis of J.V.'s game in this thread and I think that clears what I mean by this post

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    None of Gortat, Nene, or JV are going to win or lose this series - not with these coaches. The bigs are nothing more than a mildly interesting subplot.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Because he hit 3 shots in the 4th quarter, I believe with his two 3pters created by others....

    But he couldn't impact the game at all any other times. His lack of speed hurts him so much. Terrible on D. And with the Wiz pressuring high, he spent most of the time with the ball in his hands backing up to halfcourt because he couldn't break the pressure. So our backup PG was totally useless with the ball in his hands as he couldn't create for himself or others.
    10 points, 3 assists and a pullup three to tie the game. What do you mean useless? I don't know about you but if someone goes into the 4th on 1-9 shooting but finishes 11-19 let's say, I'll consider that a good outing.

    Vasquez doesn't defend, that's to be expected. There wasn't any play that really stood out.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    None of Gortat, Nene, or JV are going to win or lose this series - not with these coaches. The bigs are nothing more than a mildly interesting subplot.
    I tend to agree and disagree. Both coach are terrible. Washington tried to give this game to us. There is not denying it. However, the rebounding difference was huge in this game. The 2nd chances that were given to Wash was great these days.

    I don't know, just like Arsenalist, I expect more from J.V.

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    Quote McRealistic wrote: View Post
    Right from the front page from one of most respected Raptors writers in Canada:
    LOL. seriously man? you're using raptorsrepublic's writers as your argument? wow...

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