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We're talking about the NBA here, not pickup games. Although your points are valid and well noted, it doesnt really fall into context. You cant compare, no offense, a guy playing in a pickup game to pro basketball. We were talking about good defense in an NBA setting, not in any gym across the world. If you consider every gym in north america then heck i consider myself a good, no, make it an excellent defender coz i can keep an opposing player in front of me. im pretty sure i can average 3 stls a game without "gambling" on the defensive end. But can i do that consistently, 48 minutes a game, 82 games in 5 months against 6 - 7 foot 200 pounders? i dont think so. so if i can defend guys my size or even a bit bigger, then that makes me a good defender right? but if you put me in the NBA, and i cant guard anybody, does that make me a bad defender? of course it will change depending on the setting. anyways, i think ive proven my point on that one.
back to your examples. ok, lets take mcgee. can you honestly say that mcgee waits for opposing players to take a shot just to block them? that he makes it his mission to block every damn shot he sees? be sensible. he may be trying to block every shot, but those shots are well within his reach, you could say his defensive coverage area. i mean it would be ludicrous to think that he's running across the floor everytime just to block an opponent's shot. same with steals.
again, same analogy with half court shots. who takes half court shots? if a player consistently chucks 20 shots a game and makes only 2 every time, then he is a bad scorer. but there's no such player in the NBA.
i think we've gone way overboard on this back and forth, so im waving the white flag and calling it quits. onto the next topic!
this is the reality of forums man, you are hiding behind the forum, it is what allows you to convey your opinion as openly as possible. and why would you punch somebody who says DD is not the best player? either youre his mom, relative or himself, other than those, that would be just plain creepy.
@ tbihis: Statistically, let's compare an average defender who doesn't gamble with an average defender who gets two blocks a game, over twenty shots against. I believe the average PPP in the NBA is 1.1? If it isn't, this could be wrong. Anyway...
Average league PPP = 1.1
Average defender goes for a block 25% of the time (and gets it 40% of the time).
Average defender either gets the block or gives up the layup when he gambles.
Average defender, who gambles occasionally: 15 times (75%), he gives up league average. 2 times (10%), he gets the block. Three times (15%), he gives up a layup. 15*1.1 + 2*0 + 3*2 = 16.5 + 6 = 22.5
Average defender, who never gambles: 20 times (100%), he gives up league average. 1.1*20 = 22.
Therefore, gambling and getting the two blocks isn't optimal. Obviously a simplistic example, but more concrete.
According to 82games.com, 80% of Bargnani's shots are jumpshots, compared to 20% of his shots being inside. Interestingly, 67% of his inside shots are assisted, which tells me that, at most, 6.6% of his shots are drives.
27% of DeRozan's shots are inside, so he takes more shots inside than Bargnani, and only 59% of his inside shots are assisted, so, at most, 11% of DeRozan's shots are drives to the basket.
In other words, it's completely hypocritical to criticize DeRozan for those things and not Bargnani.
As for McGee, did you watch the Raptors game against Washington? McGee tried to block way too many shots, and there were far too many times he put himself out of position in order to do it, including trying to block perimeter shots and having the guy drive by him. McGee is NOT a good defender at this point because he goes for too many blocks when, a lot of the time, he should be staying on the floor. He certainly has the POTENTIAL to be a good defender, because of his shot blocking ability, but he's not now. If McGee were truly as good as a defender as his shotblocking might suggest, Washington would not be as bad a defensive team as they are.
.Last week, I criticized leading scorer Andrea Bargnani for his indifferent defense. The center and his teammates made me look smart by yielding 84 points in the first half at Golden State on Friday, as the Warriors shot 31-of-45 from the field and got to the line 18 times. Bargnani's line in the 138-100 defeat included 2-of-10 shooting and zero rebounds in 27 minutes. He was a minus-40, meaning the Raptors actually outscored Golden State in the 21 minutes Bargnani sat out. That's a disgraceful performance for any player, let alone one who was once the No. 1 pick in the draft and is supposed to be a team leader.
Without the liability that is Bargnani, the great DeMar DeRozan showed that he is ready to take over the teams scoring when Bargnani is thankfully banished from the team this summer. He is obviously now the best player on the team.