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    Default Time for Calderon to go.

    Via Twitter:

    Chris Tomasson: Jose Calderon on Olympic qualifying: “If everything is normal, I want to be there because I want to be in the Olympics.’’
    BC, trade him this offseason or before next year's deadline, please. An injury plagued 2012-2013 is sure to follow.

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    +1
    This needs to be done. I'm tired of getting blown out by opposing team's PG's going off on us.
    Tired of "Calderon's defense was pretty good until Ty Lawson/Rose/Rondo/J Nelson/D Fisher went off"

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
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    This needs to be done. I'm tired of getting blown out by opposing team's PG's going off on us.
    Tired of "Calderon's defense was pretty good until Ty Lawson/Rose/Rondo/J Nelson/D Fisher went off"
    Lmao, until Jose and Bargs (or at least one) are traded by the used car salesman selling koolaid in BC, this team will continue to be a joke in this league.

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    Quote smushmush wrote: View Post
    Lmao, until Jose and Bargs are traded by the used car salesman selling koolaid in BC, this team will continue to be a joke in this league.
    Deep breathe brother. In..out...Deepak Chopra..

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    Default Sick of Calderon....

    I totally agree...get him out of here...2 years left on his contract,plus labour dispute coming up could be 1 and half or less...I'm just sick of his FACE....
    Same goes for Bargnani,Barbarosa,Klieza,Weems....just go away with Triano.

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    Quote Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
    I totally agree...get him out of here...2 years left on his contract,plus labour dispute coming up could be 1 and half or less...I'm just sick of his FACE....
    Same goes for Bargnani,Barbarosa,Klieza,Weems....just go away with Triano.
    I agree with all those players besides Barbosa.

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    Quote Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
    I totally agree...get him out of here...2 years left on his contract,plus labour dispute coming up could be 1 and half or less...I'm just sick of his FACE....
    Same goes for Bargnani,Barbarosa,Klieza,Weems....just go away with Triano.
    I wont comment on Weems, Barbosa is great and you haven't seen Kleiza play when he was healthy. He was really good in the preseason, he deserves a fair chance. It's not like we are going to be able to move him anyhow...

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
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    This needs to be done. I'm tired of getting blown out by opposing team's PG's going off on us.
    Tired of "Calderon's defense was pretty good until Ty Lawson/Rose/Rondo/J Nelson/D Fisher went off"
    the only position we have a positive PER (vs opponent) is PG.
    The worst? C. Should not be suprise.

    Defense gives up more points with Bargnani on the floor than Jose.


    This team needs to deal with the real problem first... not one of the few (although marginal) positives this team has.

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    the only position we have a positive PER (vs opponent) is PG.
    The worst? C. Should not be suprise.

    Defense gives up more points with Bargnani on the floor than Jose.


    This team needs to deal with the real problem first... not one of the few (although marginal) positives this team has.
    Y'know I'm starting to think the position we're getting beat at the most (PER or not) is the Coaches seat.
    I used to be a big fan of Triano. And still am for that matter. But I think he's a REALLY good Internation level coach, and would be a REALLY good NCAA level coach; not the greatest NBA level coach. BUT we're not really looking to win a trophy anytime soon, so I guess we can let him learn just like the young guys on the court.

    ADD Whoa, totally off topic. My bad. But Garbagetime started it with the trade Bargs bit. hahaha

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    +1
    This needs to be done. I'm tired of getting blown out by opposing team's PG's going off on us.
    Tired of "Calderon's defense was pretty good until Ty Lawson/Rose/Rondo/J Nelson/D Fisher went off"
    anytime d. fish goes off your pg sucks
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    anytime d. fish goes off your pg sucks
    Yep.

    Thankful that hasn't happened here. Fisher this season against Toronto avg. 9 pts, 40% shooting 2 assists (one game 11 pts, other 9, both 2 assist). PGs going 'off' on Jose regularily is a myth.

    Jose's PER 17.5
    Jose's Opponents PER 14.3


    Jose is a professional, and a hard worker, and one of the better and more productive players on this team. His contract only lasts 2 more years and he will always be an asset in one way or another. While I'm not opposed to an upgrade at any position. PG and PF are not the 2 areas this team needs adjusted the most.

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    I only want to see him moved if the team can get value for him... If Calderon leaves they need two capable PGs coming in this off-season instead of one.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I only want to see him moved if the team can get value for him... If Calderon leaves they need two capable PGs coming in this off-season instead of one.
    Not high on Barbosa/Calderon?

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Not high on Barbosa/Calderon?
    Most people have conceded that Barbosa will be dealt because he doesn't fit with a rebuilding project.

    It's Bayless that I'm not high on. He may get there but he ain't there now. Teams need two good PGs, especially those teams who have a starting PG who historically has had to fight through many injuries.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Not high on Barbosa/Calderon?
    Barbosa is a black hole and should not be playing PG, the only reason he should be allowed to this year, is because he is the lesser of two 'B'evils....

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    Depending on the Raps placement in the draft they could conceivably add a point guard that would be a strong contender for a lot of playing time, if not starting. The challenge with moving Calderon is avoiding a stinker contract or body coming back. The deal with the Hornets would have spared us that, but Jordan nixed it. Hard to determine if Calderon has the value that the Raptors or their fans would hope. The best chance may not occur until deadline time next season.

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    Quote sillydebate wrote: View Post
    Depending on the Raps placement in the draft they could conceivably add a point guard that would be a strong contender for a lot of playing time, if not starting. The challenge with moving Calderon is avoiding a stinker contract or body coming back. The deal with the Hornets would have spared us that, but Jordan nixed it. Hard to determine if Calderon has the value that the Raptors or their fans would hope. The best chance may not occur until deadline time next season.
    A PG who very rarely turns it over more than twice a game, consistently gives 8-11 assists per game, shoots a high percentage from the line, field and 3? I can almost guarentee the Lakers would LOVE to have a guy like Calderon. Any contending team for that matter. I'd take Calderon over Andre Miller, Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Mike Bibby etc.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    A PG who very rarely turns it over more than twice a game, consistently gives 8-11 assists per game, shoots a high percentage from the line, field and 3? I can almost guarentee the Lakers would LOVE to have a guy like Calderon. Any contending team for that matter. I'd take Calderon over Andre Miller, Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Mike Bibby etc.
    Afraid a lot of the negative sentiment is because of his salary and the effect it has on the cap. Its too bad because he does have value and a team guy...but @ 9 per? The players you mention dont come close to making his money. Its also time for Jose to rest his body in the summer and give up on this yearly grind he is insistent on. I think he has done his part for Spain as Nash has for Canada.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    A PG who very rarely turns it over more than twice a game, consistently gives 8-11 assists per game, shoots a high percentage from the line, field and 3? I can almost guarentee the Lakers would LOVE to have a guy like Calderon. Any contending team for that matter. I'd take Calderon over Andre Miller, Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Mike Bibby etc.
    I co-sign this, as well. Absolutely nothing wrong with Calderon. He's more than proved what he can do against the top PGs in the league. Check the tapes. It's the injury that is the problem, not Jose as a PG. Imagine Jose WITH a high turnover ratio, and THEN ya got something. If Calderon played against us, on a good team that we all KNOW would take him, he'd torch us with other great players on his team.
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