Raptors almost as good as Heat against playoff teams
This is just a rough look, and I might be off a bit, but here are Toronto's wins against playoff bound teams (not counting Indiana).
Orlando
Philadelphia x2
Boston
OKC x2
Dallas
Chicago
New Orleans
(9 total wins)
Here are Miami's wins against playoff teams (not including Indiana).
Orlando x2
Philadelphia
Atlanta
New Orleans
NY Knicks
Portland
OKC
LA
Memphis
San Antonio
Denver
(12 total wins)
Just some food for thought.
oops... missed a Philly win for Miami.
13 total.
Heat are pathetic.
They beat Orlando twice, so that's a good sign for the Heat. And most of the playoff bound teams they beat are in the East. They only need to win 4 games against the West to win a championship. But yeah, 12 is pretty ridiculous, or is 9 on our side pretty ridiculous?
Both are horrible. At least the Raptors do not have 3 max contract players.JoePanini wrote:
Another crazy thing is that the Raptors other 10 or so wins are mostly from the bottom feeders... Clips, Minne, NJ, Wash x2 and Cleveland x2. They only have three wins again middle of the pack teams like Houston ect...
Just seems strange.
What's the time frame on this? Shouldn't both these teams have played playoff teams more than that?
If it's correct then I think is says far more about a team touted a contender than a team with horrible defense and ranked 5th last in the standings. I hope the Heat train wreck in round one. It's pretty bad when a collection of d-bags have me rooting for the Celtics... I can't stand the Celtics.
You got no love for the Bulls? They seem to be the least douchey out of the East.
It's not that I don't appreciate what they're doing, it's just that I know the playoffs is a different beast and I am seriously doubting their readiness to meet the Celtics in the Eastern Finals.
Rose can't guard his shadow but is a prolific scorer. Rondo is a lock down defender and one of the faster guys in the league and can do a little of everything. Rondo is the best player in that series if they meet and I'm putting my money on the Celtics because of that and the supporting cast. I would be happier seeing the Bulls beat the hell out of both the Heat and the Celtics. I just wanted to get that on record.
Sorry... not correct. Here is the new list. Still not all that impressive.
Orlando x2
Philadelphia x2
Atlanta x2
New Orleans
NY Knicks x2
Portland
OKC
LA
Memphis
San Antonio
Denver
hahaha it does seem strange.
The Raps seem to try harder when playing elite teams, when playing bottom feeders, even if they dont try, theyre just good enough to win, and thats what irks me. If they play with the same drive when playing elite teams every single game, the outcome of the season may be different. Like i always say, effort is the key for this team.
Btw thats completely wrong, the heat have 19 total wins against playoff teams, i don't know if the OP can count or if he knows whose actually in the playoffs
76ers x2
Magic x2
Knicks x2
Hawks x2
Pacers x2
Lakers x2
Blazers
Grizzlies
San Antonio
OKC
Denver
Hornets
It's 18 wins. In comparison Lakers have 23 wins. Raptors also have a 8-33 record against plus .500 teams.
@biggie10 Yeah totally true. Bad counting on my part. I did say that I omitted the Pacers because they suck.
Please stay calm about the original mistake. I said it was rough.
its all good, just raptorsfan4life was bustin my balls about this
call me an optimist, but i see it as a good sign... they have the talent to compete with the upper echelon teams, but lack the maturity to bring it every night regardless who they play..
they're a young team... they'll learn to bring it every night.. as soon as they realize call of duty every friggin day won't get you paid.
Celtics 25 wins
Lakers 23 wins
Spurs 22 wins
Mavs 21 wins
OKC 20 wins
Bulls 22 wins
Nuggets 17 wins
Magic 16 wins
Hawks 16 wins
Knicks 15 wins
this is just a breakdown of the some of the playoff teams against other playoff teams
Clippers 12 wins
Timberwolves 4 wins
Kings 6 wins
Bucks 11 wins
Nets 10 wins
Wizards 5 wins
Cavaliers 8 wins
Pistons 8 wins
The lottery teams against playoff teams
Raps seem to play up to their opponents sometimes, but also, play down to their opponents. I honestly think that if we somehow snuck into the playoffs this year, we might have one a few, dare I say, even a series.
Is this supposed to be a joke? You think the good playoff teams give a hundred percent when they play teams like the Raptors..? You've got to be kidding me. 8-33 isn't exactly playing up to the opponents. Not to mention when they beat half of those plus .500 teams they played against handicapped teams.. For example when they beat the Mavs.. Dirk was injured, against the Celtics KG & Rondo were injured, Thunder game in December.. no Durant, they beat the sixers once without Igoudala and the other with Elton Brand suspended when the Sixers were struggling starting off 3-11. Really speaking the only wins that were actually legitimate against fully healthy clubs were against the Bulls two weeks ago and the Thunder on Sunday. Not to mention Raptors are only winning 3 series all year... 2-0 against the cavs and thunder.. and 2-1 against the sixers (still one game left).. so lets not hype them up thinking they'd have a chance against a playoff team.
Raptors are 0-3 against the knicks, heat, hawks... 0-4 against the bobcats, 1-3 vs the celtics, pistons... 1-25 against these east teams
Please don't confuse the regular season with the tons of meaningless games as a sign that the Raptors could compete against quality teams in the playoffs.. cause the playoffs is a whole new ball game. Ask the Mavs
I'm aware of what the playoffs are, and I am saying that I think the Raps, if they had been healthy and playing together all year, ie- with Reg, could have one 2-3 games, and possibly taken a series. The playoffs are a different game, meaning, the Raps might surprise you. Unlike you, a nihilist, i still maintain a measure of optimism about the quality of the Raptors.
Please take a breath and compose yourself before posting, it works, trust me
Last edited by Multipaul; Wed Mar 23rd, 2011 at 01:29 PM.
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