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    I think the first time that a grade should be given to this rebuild should be after the draft........as of now, we have somewhat of an idea of who's likely to stay and who's likely on the move (nothing's concrete obviously, but guys like Ed, DD, JB, JJ ..etc) I'd say it'd be fair to give a grade following the draft, where we'll have seen not only who they've drafted, but any other transactions that have happened along the way.....viva KEMBA WALKER!! (kyrie or d.williams would be also nice) never been so excited for a draft before.....not really because of the strength of the talent, but because I'm really curious as to who's the next piece to the Raptors Rebuild Puzzle........

    and Garbage Time you need to CHIILLLLLLLL on the negativity - I understand fans criticizing and being upset, but damn no need to crap on the future like that - the next season opener will lie somewhere between Oct28-31/2011.....until then, nobody knows how good or bad the starting lineup will look like.......until then, it's difficult to evaluate how far the franchise has come......the draft is in 90 days and as a Raps fan, that's the next big day after the season has ended to really look forward to
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    When there is no talent in a team, when scrubs like James Johnson, Acinja, Weems, Bayless and Amir are sold to the fan as a future promising player, then you should expect to get raped and destroy like that last night against a GSW

    This team has only 3 decent players and this is it Thank you BC for your hard work for last 5 years

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    When there is no talent in a team, when scrubs like James Johnson, Acinja, Weems, Bayless and Amir are sold to the fan as a future promising player, then you should expect to get raped and destroy like that last night against a GSW

    This team has only 3 decent players and this is it Thank you BC for your hard work for last 5 years
    Scratch out James Johnson and put in Bargnani, he was terrible last night and he can't play defence for shit. James johnson was the only player that tried on the defensive end and tried to get something going. It was basically 1 on 5, Bargnani was a non factor offesively and obviously defesively, demar was bad on D, Ed was OK on D and Bayless was another player who was actually trying to get something going.

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    If Colangelo gets a lot of value for Bargnani in the off season then the rebuild gets a gigantic boost. You know it's sad but I think the Raptors might get more on court worth from a Bargnani trade than they did from the Chris Bosh S&T.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    If Colangelo gets a lot of value for Bargnani in the off season then the rebuild gets a gigantic boost. You know it's sad but I think the Raptors might get more on court worth from a Bargnani trade than they did from the Chris Bosh S&T.
    If the purpose of trade for AB is get value and talent back, isn't better to move Amir ?

    Per Liston and Buddah , He is the most effective Raptors and now that we all think he has a very reasonable contract ( not sure what the rest of NBA thinks since they were laughing at BC last summer ), then we maybe able to get more value back.

    Plus, the type of beating that AB got from Toronto Media, I think his trade value is at its all time low. Also, with emergence of Ed Davis, do we really need another skinny PF in this team ??

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    If the purpose of trade for AB is get value and talent back, isn't better to move Amir ?

    Per Liston and Buddah , He is the most effective Raptors and now that we all think he has a very reasonable contract ( not sure what the rest of NBA thinks since they were laughing at BC last summer ), then we maybe able to get more value back.

    Plus, the type of beating that AB got from Toronto Media, I think his trade value is at its all time low. Also, with emergence of Ed Davis, do we really need another skinny PF in this team ??
    I agree, we need to move Amir. His performances are pathetic and go unnoticed and uncriticized, lets get him out of here before the cats out of the bag

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    If the purpose of trade for AB is get value and talent back, isn't better to move Amir ?

    Per Liston and Buddah , He is the most effective Raptors and now that we all think he has a very reasonable contract ( not sure what the rest of NBA thinks since they were laughing at BC last summer ), then we maybe able to get more value back.

    Plus, the type of beating that AB got from Toronto Media, I think his trade value is at its all time low. Also, with emergence of Ed Davis, do we really need another skinny PF in this team ??
    The purpose of moving Bargnani is to get value back and shift the build to two guys who have the ability to be superb two way players, Ed and DeMar. If you watch the really good teams in the league then you know they are where they because they have guys like Amir coming off the bench. Amir reeks of Pop/Spurs basketball. They love guys like him because of the energy and fundamentals they bring to the table. Amir needs to stay. The team needs a strong bench and depth when injuries arise. Not to mention there is no way, no how that Amir Johnson has more value on the market than Andrea Bargnani. I don't believe it.

    Bargnani is a big time scorer. Teams will pay for 25 year old 7 footers who can score 22PPG. He is at an age where there is still hope for him to fix his flaws. The fact that he hasn't had a strong coach yet to date also helps his case.

    I think you greatly over weigh the influence of the Toronto media.

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    Too early to tell. Another year in the tank is key, as is getting Bargnani as far away from the team as possible. He's a poison. Two high picks to go along with Davis, Amir, Derozan and JJ and this team is back on the upswing.

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    Quote Brasky wrote: View Post
    Too early to tell. Another year in the tank is key, as is getting Bargnani as far away from the team as possible. He's a poison. Two high picks to go along with Davis, Amir, Derozan and JJ and this team is back on the upswing.
    I disagree, I think we need a big C to put next to Bargs at PF, trade Amir (redundant), and let big Ed come off the bench.

    IF possible package all the Young Gunz in one deal for a new C and a 2.

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