Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: How Would You Grade Our Season Up To This Point?

  1. #1
    Administrator Dr. James Naismith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Almonte
    Posts
    4,065
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default How Would You Grade Our Season Up To This Point?

    Nice read courtesy of Hoopsworld. I'd say a "B" grade is a far assessment of this team so far. Would you not agree?

    What a difference a couple of weeks makes… If I had been asked to grade the Raptors on December 17th – the day after the Orlando Magic had stomped Toronto for the third time in the then young season – there would have been very few positives to discuss or pleasantries to dole out. Instead, as it turns out, the Raptors "Grading the First 30" report was due on January 7th – one day after Toronto held on to beat the Magic in Orlando. The win was not only a much-needed victory over Orlando, it was the Raps seventh win in their last eight contests, and pulled the team back up to the .500 mark. It was an undeniably important game; the question is whether Toronto will be able to maintain this momentum and continue their push towards respectability in the Eastern Conference.

    Areas to Address before the Deadline: Bryan Colangelo and the Raptors front office have been dealing with the same underlying issue for a few years now – will they be able to keep Chris Bosh in Toronto during the entirety of his prime? Bosh has maintained publicly that his is happy with the direction of the franchise and enjoys playing for the Raptors. And now with the Raptors playing their best ball of the season, things look sunnier in Toronto. Still, losing Bosh via free-agency and getting nothing in return would be a devastating loss for the franchise; setting them back years. Thus, there has been talk that Colangelo may hedge his bets and possibly look to trade Bosh by February's trade deadline. The rational here would be assuring the franchise won't be left empty-handed if Bosh decides to bolt. If Colangelo were to put CB4 on the block, he'd certainly be inundated with offers. The problem is that you rarely get equal value when you trade superstars in the NBA.

    And with Raptors making their push, the probability of Toronto keeping Bosh past February is increasing by the day. If they do decide to keep the core intact and bring in reinforcements, the goal has to be to improve the porous defense, especially if they want to make noise in the postseason. For instance, even in their victory last night in Orlando, they nearly blew an 18-point fourth quarter lead because they could not get stops. The defense has to addressed, and fortified.

    Grade: B
    As intimated in this column's initial paragraph, if I had assigned the Raptors a grade in mid-December, it would have likely been in the "D" range. But Toronto deserves plenty of credit for turning around their season over the last few weeks. Let's take a big picture look: The Raptors are 18-18 on the season; they are in second place in the Atlantic Division; and they are currently sixth in the conference – just a half game behind the Miami HEAT for the 5th seed. Considering how poorly they played to start the year, that is certainly respectable. Now they need to make this current win streak stick, by backing it with consistent effort and sustained success.
    Source - Click here

  2. #2
    Super Moderator .40 Cal Flakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    T Dot
    Posts
    1,305
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    If I were to grade the Raps so far I'd have to give them a B-/C+. The Raps have improved a great deal on the defensive end the last 15 games or so. But they still have a long way to show they can be consistent and beat the better teams in the NBA. They are beating the teams they are supposed to be beating and now some of the tougher ones as well. As long as they can keep improving on D then I see them finishing 5th in the east ahead of Miami.

  3. #3
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    12,044
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    A B grade seems fair. Nine new players, pretty much a rookie head coach, difficult schedule, etc. They've done well by staying at .500. I full expect them to leap frog Miami over the next week or so and establish themselves as the fifth seed for now. Miami is only one game above .500 at home this year and that's after 21 home games. That's not good enough and from here on out they have eight more road games than home games. Even though they're 6-6 on the road, I don't see that holding throughout the season.

    NBA Standings @ NBA.com

  4. #4
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    426
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    For me its a B-. We have beat who we should beat but i would like to see us step up more against better teams.

  5. #5
    Super Moderator .40 Cal Flakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    T Dot
    Posts
    1,305
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    A B grade seems fair. Nine new players, pretty much a rookie head coach, difficult schedule, etc. They've done well by staying at .500. I full expect them to leap frog Miami over the next week or so and establish themselves as the fifth seed for now. Miami is only one game above .500 at home this year and that's after 21 home games. That's not good enough and from here on out they have eight more road games than home games. Even though they're 6-6 on the road, I don't see that holding throughout the season.

    NBA Standings @ NBA.com
    Not to hijack this thread, but what effect, if any, do you see Alston having on Miami and the standings, if Alston does end up signing with them after he clears the waivers tonight?

  6. #6
    Administrator Arsenalist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    1,213
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote .40 Cal Flakes wrote: View Post
    If I were to grade the Raps so far I'd have to give them a B-/C+. The Raps have improved a great deal on the defensive end the last 15 games or so. But they still have a long way to show they can be consistent and beat the better teams in the NBA. They are beating the teams they are supposed to be beating and now some of the tougher ones as well. As long as they can keep improving on D then I see them finishing 5th in the east ahead of Miami.
    Gotta agree. I picked them to win around 43 games this year and if all goes well, they might surpass my expectations by a couple games. If everything blows up, they'll win 33.

  7. #7
    Raptors Republic Starter tonious35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Richmond Hill or Edmonton
    Posts
    334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Pretty much a B- in general, due to the fact that it took Triano a long while to finally utilize every athletic specimen on the roster to play good defense (debatable). We are not controlling enough winnable games to allow the winning garbage time to be set on the final 1:30 of the 4th quarter and blowing 15+ in the forth to 2 pt leads. It took an injury to Jose to tell Triano that Jack and Jose should not play together in the 4th.

    I'm glad this team pulled some good wins against elite teams (although they were b-2-b) and took advantage of their mistakes to actually EARN a 0.500 record. Some of the dog-housed players on our team are actually responding in this stretch and giving us a good effort.

    If Triano makes us go 15+ over 0.500 at the end of the season, don't give him the coach of the year award, no one vote plz. That award is cursed!

    GM: B
    + (BCo tossed out a lazy 3pt shooter and a horse-face, stole Weems and FreeAmir, exchanged a corpse for a potential Italian Bastardo, No MORE Joey FTLOG, Jack, Turk ain't bad at all)

    - (Can Turk play good at 35 yrs old? Where's our salary cap and draft picks?)

    Players: B
    + Bosh explodes and is still pretty warm when playing bad, Bargs tries harder, Turk
    - Still no true consistent scary firepower from our bench, Reggie Evans' cast

    Coach:
    + Good decisions on dog-housing ppl and they somehow respond at the time they are needed, this would not happen with Smitch
    - Still no good plays called and broken plays I believe our players bail him out
    - Won't call timeouts when needed, both Calderon and Jack tooooo long

  8. #8
    Raptors Republic Starter tonious35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Richmond Hill or Edmonton
    Posts
    334
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote tonious35 wrote: View Post
    Pretty much a B- in general, due to the fact that it took Triano a long while to finally utilize every athletic specimen on the roster to play good defense (debatable). We are not controlling enough winnable games to allow the winning garbage time to be set on the final 1:30 of the 4th quarter and blowing 15+ in the forth to 2 pt leads. It took an injury to Jose to tell Triano that Jack and Jose should not play together in the 4th.

    I'm glad this team pulled some good wins against elite teams (although they were b-2-b) and took advantage of their mistakes to actually EARN a 0.500 record. Some of the dog-housed players on our team are actually responding in this stretch and giving us a good effort.

    If Triano makes us go 15+ over 0.500 at the end of the season, don't give him the coach of the year award, no one vote plz. That award is cursed!

    GM: B
    + (BCo tossed out a lazy 3pt shooter and a horse-face, stole Weems and FreeAmir, exchanged a corpse for a potential Italian Bastardo, No MORE Joey FTLOG, Jack, Turk ain't bad at all)

    - (Can Turk play good at 35 yrs old? Where's our salary cap and draft picks?)

    Players: B
    + Bosh explodes and is still pretty warm when playing bad, Bargs tries harder, Turk
    - Still no true consistent scary firepower from our bench, Reggie Evans' cast

    Coach:
    + Good decisions on dog-housing ppl and they somehow respond at the time they are needed, this would not happen with Smitch
    - Still no good plays called and broken plays I believe our players bail him out
    - Won't call timeouts when needed, both Calderon and Jack tooooo long
    Coach: C

  9. #9
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    574
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Where do people feel the raptors expectations lie? Have they not played about as good as anyone would expect them to? Other than maybe winning that game in Phoenix and in Memphis early in the season, they have won the games they should have won and lost the games they should have lost. 500. after completely retooling the team, playing the most games in the NBA and implementing a brand new defensive scheme is a pretty decent showing.

    I give them an A so far. They are peaking during the 'dog days' of the season, getting all their guys back and getting solid play from Bargs and Derozan, two of the what ifs coming into the season.

    Ideally they could of kept a few games closer, but losing by 2 or 20 is still a loss. If they continue their strong play on the defensive end and continue to get good showings from their bench, thier one player away from being considered a dark horse contender in the east.

    Its hard to truly gauge how Triano has coached giving all the pieces he had to deal with. I think he has done a commendable job giving different guys minutes and benching guys who are not pulling thier weight.

    The most important part of the early season was showing that the Raptors are a play off team and worthy of Bosh resigning. As Bosh goes, so do the raps.

  10. #10
    Raptors Republic All-Star brothersteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    1,078
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    B

    Raptors are exactly where I thought they would at the start of the season.

    Following the same path as the 06-07 Raptors on their way to a 47 win season after a 7-13 start.
    The best Raptors discussion board is at Raptors Republic.

    Stephen Brotherston, Pro Bball Report

  11. #11
    Super Moderator .40 Cal Flakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    T Dot
    Posts
    1,305
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote brothersteve wrote: View Post
    B

    Raptors are exactly where I thought they would at the start of the season.

    Following the same path as the 06-07 Raptors on their way to a 47 win season after a 7-13 start.
    There are similarities between the 06-07 squad and this year's edition. Both teams had a major makeover in the off season, both teams started off slow but started to improve around late December. Hopefully the outcome is the same this year!

  12. #12
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    24
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    From my memory the Raptors are generally a 2nd half team. That being said I still think they are about 1 move away from being able to pull a 1st round upset. Here is a question. If for whatever reason a trade is proposed: Bargnani straight up for Noah...which GM says No?

    In my mind Noah is excatly the type of player the Raptors need, want and could be of high use. His defence, shotblocking and unlimited energy on the off. boards could single handedly propel us to the upper echeolon of the East. Not to mention he is still young and somewhat controllable

  13. #13
    Super Moderator .40 Cal Flakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    T Dot
    Posts
    1,305
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote tarunj wrote: View Post
    From my memory the Raptors are generally a 2nd half team. That being said I still think they are about 1 move away from being able to pull a 1st round upset. Here is a question. If for whatever reason a trade is proposed: Bargnani straight up for Noah...which GM says No?

    In my mind Noah is excatly the type of player the Raptors need, want and could be of high use. His defence, shotblocking and unlimited energy on the off. boards could single handedly propel us to the upper echeolon of the East. Not to mention he is still young and somewhat controllable
    Welcome to RRF tarunj! If I were asked this question last season I would have answered with an emphatic Yes! to the trade. But I'm really liking how Bargs has stepped up his defensive presence in the post this season. Bargs seems to be getting better on D as the season goes along, which is what just about what everyone has been asking for. He's blocking shots and holding his own in the low post. He just needs to grab a couple more boards a game consistently and he'll be a beast in the paint

  14. #14
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    53
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    wow .. some high grades for a .500 team .. until they can prove to me that they can play the way they are playing now on a consistent basis its still a C

  15. #15
    Raptors Republic Rookie Prophet2k's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    116
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    The raptors are performing pretty much the way they should be at this point. I remember the days when they would beat the good teams and lose to the bad ones and now it seems to be reversed. They need a real 2 guard to make a serious run. I give them a C cause they are good enough to pass but not good enough to merit a higher grade.
    limpin ain't easy, but I make it look good...

  16. #16
    Raptors Republic All-Star brothersteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    1,078
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote tarunj wrote: View Post
    From my memory the Raptors are generally a 2nd half team. That being said I still think they are about 1 move away from being able to pull a 1st round upset. Here is a question. If for whatever reason a trade is proposed: Bargnani straight up for Noah...which GM says No?

    In my mind Noah is excatly the type of player the Raptors need, want and could be of high use. His defence, shotblocking and unlimited energy on the off. boards could single handedly propel us to the upper echeolon of the East. Not to mention he is still young and somewhat controllable
    Not interested! Not enough! Besides salaries aren't close. Noah, Thomas + to get that deal on the table.
    The best Raptors discussion board is at Raptors Republic.

    Stephen Brotherston, Pro Bball Report

  17. #17
    Raptors Republic All-Star brothersteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    1,078
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote tdoto wrote: View Post
    wow .. some high grades for a .500 team .. until they can prove to me that they can play the way they are playing now on a consistent basis its still a C
    A team at .500 that missed the playoffs last year doesn't deserve a "B" - very tough crowd in here!
    The best Raptors discussion board is at Raptors Republic.

    Stephen Brotherston, Pro Bball Report

  18. #18
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    884
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    A -- I've been pondering whether it's an "A" or a "B". They've been worse defensively than I thought they are capable of being so I was leaning towards a B ... but at the end of the day, they're right were they should be record wise (W-L). So that deserves an "A" I think.

  19. #19
    Super Moderator .40 Cal Flakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    T Dot
    Posts
    1,305
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    A -- I've been pondering whether it's an "A" or a "B". They've been worse defensively than I thought they are capable of being so I was leaning towards a B ... but at the end of the day, they're right were they should be record wise (W-L). So that deserves an "A" I think.
    Wow...very generous grading. I wish I had profs like you growing up.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •