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    Quote albertan_10 wrote: View Post
    Ughh has everyone forgotten that Julien Wright can't hit a jump shot? We Raptors fans love guys like Reggie and Wright who gives 100% but can't give anything back at the other end. I understand he is upset about what's going on with his playing time, he is in a contract year, but he hasn't come close to deserving minutes. Especially iwth Johnson getting shipped in. Weems is a bench guy and Wright is a third string who plays sometimes. Today was one of those times and he gets paid nearly 3 million this year to do what his coach asks him to do. He has absolutely no right to say no to his coach. If there is an issue he needs to talk to Triano in his office like a man and work things out. I have no respect for someone who refuses to do their job, I don't care how frustrated they are. If you have a beef with someone, then talk about it behind closed doors, don't cry about it on the bench. This stuff should never have leaked out, we shouldn't know about these kinds of player issues.
    he was this team best SF until JJ got brought in. He is now this teams 2nd best SF. He is the teams best perimeter defender. He worked hard night in night out. He has had one of the most positive contributions to the team when given an opportunity to play. None of those things resulted in him getting playing time.

    I don't care if he can't hit a jumper. I don't care if he is in a wheelchair with the brakes jammed, if he is going to positively effect this team, he needs to play.

    .... and then to not give him a chance earlier in this game to help do something to stop GS, but only offer him minutes when the game is out of reach? Thats just a god damn insult.

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    In what alternative universe is an employee allowed to publicly disobey a request/order by his boss ...and this is found to be acceptable (committing a crime excepted)???? He is getting paid right? These are grounds for getting fined imo. Come to think of it that game last night was a crime. After watching some of the MM tournament the Rap game was a disgrace in terms of effort. ANd they get paid big bucks for it. ANd I am getting a bit tired of JT's lame bs remarks post game. I 'd rather he just came to the podium and say "I dont want to talk about this game" and leave. Dont know which was worse/more embarrassing this game or Kobe going off for 81.

    None of us know what the circumstances are that JW has been a dnp on so many occasions. Here is a simple for example....he was asked by the coaches to spend some xtra time practicing his jump shot with Alex English...and he refused.

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    I don't care if he can't hit a jumper. I don't care if he is in a wheelchair with the brakes jammed, if he is going to positively effect this team, he needs to play.
    Last game Wright played he contributed nothing in 10 minutes. All he's good for is garbage time and is out of the league next year.

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    It's kind of like standing up for a teammate when someone like Paul Pierce knees you in the balls as he dunks on you, then stares down on you. You stand up for your teammate, and in the process get T'd up. You send a message.

    Wright stood up for himself and his pride. Should he get fined or punished in some sort of way? Yes. But he sent that message across and I really don't blame him for feeling or acting that way. At least someone in this team is acting like they care enough to be embarrassed.

    I only comment on what I see from him, and that's give honest effort every time on the floor. If he has attitude behind closed doors, or stinks it up in practice, who knows? If those are the reasons he don't get to play, then I guess guys like Bargnani turn on god-mode during practice and kiss-ass to warrant being able to play despite apparent horrendous effort on actual games.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    None of us know what the circumstances are that JW has been a dnp on so many occasions. Here is a simple for example....he was asked by the coaches to spend some xtra time practicing his jump shot with Alex English...and he refused.
    Where are you getting your info from? Which reputable source said that he refused to work on his j with English? And since when has he been a drip??? On the contrary, all the reports I've read on JuJu have extolled his dedication and effort and solid team values. Should he have refused to go in? Yes and no. No, because it was unprofessional to do so, he's being paid, etc. HOWEVER...it might be the best thing he could have done to focus attention on his plight and force his employer's hand. And to another poster who pointed out that he played 10 minutes the other night with zero stats, first of all, stats don't tell the whole picture of a player's performance, second of all, it was garbage time, and third of all, the guy hadn't seen the court in about a zillion years. It must be galling to know that you're your team's best perimeter defender, this for a team that is epically bad on defence, and yet you never see the court.

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    Default Triano is a Moron!!!

    I don't know how many times I have 2 say it...Triano is a Fuck up!!!
    Julian Wright didn't go in...bc u don't respect him,why didn't u play him when the game is in hand or other games,his ure best defender and he plays Sunny Weems or other garbage players.
    Oh yeah by the way,Calderon didn't go in iether,he pulled his hamstring...oh sure he did,come on,give me a break.
    What about Reggie or Amir..how come they didn't play.
    THEY DON'T WANT 2 PLAY FOR MINOR LEAGUE COACH,or if that.

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    Don't worry about Julian Wright kid will get playing time in nba with some other club and don't be suprised if he turns out 2 be Bruce Bowen for some other team.


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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    In what alternative universe is an employee allowed to publicly disobey a request/order by his boss ...and this is found to be acceptable (committing a crime excepted)???? He is getting paid right? These are grounds for getting fined imo.
    I hate to get distracted by this non-event but i'll say this: you can always get another job but you can't get your reputation back. As much as I understand why Wright did what he did, this will scar his reputation. Wright knows he won't be back here next year, he just needed to sit out the string and move on.

    I have been in a similar situation in my own career and I had to bide my time before I left. Did it wound my pride? Yes. Was it humiliating? Yes. But you have to play the long game. I get being prideful and standing up for yourself but, in this case, he hurt is rep more than helping it...

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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Where are you getting your info from? Which reputable source said that he refused to work on his j with English? And since when has he been a drip??? On the contrary, all the reports I've read on JuJu have extolled his dedication and effort and solid team values. Should he have refused to go in? Yes and no. No, because it was unprofessional to do so, he's being paid, etc. HOWEVER...it might be the best thing he could have done to focus attention on his plight and force his employer's hand. And to another poster who pointed out that he played 10 minutes the other night with zero stats, first of all, stats don't tell the whole picture of a player's performance, second of all, it was garbage time, and third of all, the guy hadn't seen the court in about a zillion years. It must be galling to know that you're your team's best perimeter defender, this for a team that is epically bad on defence, and yet you never see the court.
    Hmmm...check the bifocals lately?...I wrote "dnp" and included a "for example" to underscore the possibility regarding his practice habits. I dont have access to the closed ACC practice sessions. My post was solely on his refusal to go in when asked by the coach of the team. Scottie Pippen tried that once and was villified. Any personal issues with coach or management should be handled away from the court. This has nothing to do with Triano's capability as the coach. There are plenty of issues that he can be fired for including the embarassment that was that game last night.

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    I hate to get distracted by this non-event but i'll say this: you can always get another job but you can't get your reputation back. As much as I understand why Wright did what he did, this will scar his reputation. Wright knows he won't be back here next year, he just needed to sit out the string and move on.

    I have been in a similar situation in my own career and I had to bide my time before I left. Did it wound my pride? Yes. Was it humiliating? Yes. But you have to play the long game. I get being prideful and standing up for yourself but, in this case, he hurt is rep more than helping it...
    Well said. I have often felt badly for JW for what has probably been quite humiliating not to be played by a team with the Raptors record (for the position he plays and the defensive skills he brings sans the shooting). Seems like a nice guy too. But we are also not privy to everything that goes down sometimes in the secrecy of what is the prosports locker room. He shouldnt have refused to go in and as you rightly pointed out it might hurt him professionally.

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    Amen. I like JW but he is getting paid 3 million to not be a bitch and do his job. James Johnson is a better player, that is a fact, after you have been playing basketball for so long, and are in the NBA you need to be able to hit a jump shot.

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    Quote albertan_10 wrote: View Post
    Ughh has everyone forgotten that Julien Wright can't hit a jump shot? We Raptors fans love guys like Reggie and Wright who gives 100% but can't give anything back at the other end. I understand he is upset about what's going on with his playing time, he is in a contract year, but he hasn't come close to deserving minutes. Especially iwth Johnson getting shipped in. Weems is a bench guy and Wright is a third string who plays sometimes. Today was one of those times and he gets paid nearly 3 million this year to do what his coach asks him to do. He has absolutely no right to say no to his coach. If there is an issue he needs to talk to Triano in his office like a man and work things out. I have no respect for someone who refuses to do their job, I don't care how frustrated they are. If you have a beef with someone, then talk about it behind closed doors, don't cry about it on the bench. This stuff should never have leaked out, we shouldn't know about these kinds of player issues.
    How about DeRozan who had absolutely no jumpshot last year. You mentioned Reggie as well. J.J. isn't exactly known to be a knock down shooter either.

    Speaking of only playing one side of the field. At least wright can pass and semi-handle on offense. What about our players that can't defend, rotate, or contribute anything worthwhile on defense?

    I wouldn't kid myself to claim Wright is anything remotely close to being considered a starter, but he deserved more than what Triano gave him. Especially considering Triano was preaching defense and accountability so much in the beginning.

    That being said, Julian is wrong in reacting the way he did. Most people would gladly take 3M to stfu and warm the bench.

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    Quote Krix wrote: View Post
    How about DeRozan who had absolutely no jumpshot last year. You mentioned Reggie as well. J.J. isn't exactly known to be a knock down shooter either.

    Speaking of only playing one side of the field. At least wright can pass and semi-handle on offense. What about our players that can't defend, rotate, or contribute anything worthwhile on defense?

    I wouldn't kid myself to claim Wright is anything remotely close to being considered a starter, but he deserved more than what Triano gave him. Especially considering Triano was preaching defense and accountability so much in the beginning.

    That being said, Julian is wrong in reacting the way he did. Most people would gladly take 3M to stfu and warm the bench.
    Solution= Fire Triano

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    Default Wright Apologizes

    Julian Wright has apologized for refusing to go into the game last night … as the Raptors were being blown out by the Golden State Warriors.

    With Toronto down by 35+ points for most of the evening, head coach Jay Triano called upon Wright to go into the game late in the contest. But the swingman told the coach that he wouldn’t sub-in. When word of this story leaked out after the final buzzer, there was some talk that Wright may have been sick (he had recently returned from the rest room when Triano called his number) but it turns out the Kansas product’s health had nothing to do with his decision to not enter the game.

    Wright addressed the coaches and his teammates in a game-day meeting earlier today. He apologized for his actions but said “everyone understood” his frustration.

    “The best way to put it is this was not characteristic of me,” said Wright. “That’s why I think this is (now) a thing of the past.”

    Wright, who is the Raptors union rep, wouldn’t say whether or not he regretted his decision, simply saying that things have been handled internally and the team is just going to “finish strong”.

    He has not been suspended … he is at the arena and is getting set to get dressed for the game.

    Whether or not Wright has been fined by the Raptors is being kept internal as well.

    For what it’s worth, a number of Wright’s teammates — especially Reggie Evans — were playfully yelling out some cat-calls at the reporters and offering words of support to Wright as we were chatting with him.
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    Wright is being paid nearly 3 million dollars. He had BETTER do what the coach asks. NO EXCUSES.

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    As understandable as his frustration was, it's inexcusable to behave as he did. Rip Hamilton is pulling the same garbage in Detroit, but he's got a ring and several years of Pistons glory to fall back on. Julian is a bench player on one of the worst teams in the league who still can't get minutes. I was really high on Julian after his solid rookie campaign, but he's really let me down. He regresses tremendously in his second season in New Orleans, he tweets he wants out, he doesn't come off the bench even though it's his job, really disappointing. If you compare Wright in the (admittedly few) minutes he's played with the Raptors to the way he played in his rookie campaign and in the playoffs, you'd swear you weren't looking at the same player.
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