SAC: Bargnani and Bayless
TOR: Garcia, Thompson, SAC 1st round pick
MIN: Bargnani and Calderon
TOR: Flynn, Tolliver, Ellington, MEM first round pick
*Will work after season.
Sounds like he might have value around the league.Jeff in Toronto:
Hoopsworld is getting us excited with a report that Bargnani might be traded! I say ship out Colangelo, Triano and Bargnani and create a defence-first environment here in Toronto. The fans would love that.
I guess so! Lots of Bargs questions this morning. Don't worry - of BC wants to deal him, there will be takers.
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Rubio isn't part of the trade machine options, but I would like to see him involved in the exchange for Bargnani. Not sure how to make that work, but would not be opposed to taking Milicic back in the deal either.
You can keep dreaming. There's no way Kahn gives up Rubio for Bargnani, even if we take on Milicic's contract.
Plus the lottery pick from New Jersey
check this one out
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Barring lock out this would work after July 1st:
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I don't like the Flynn trade mostly because I really don't think he's going to be anything more than a mediocre PG.
I'm not a fan of getting either Okur or Haywood.
Salary and roster wise it would be around $60M or less and look like this:
PG: Felton($7.1M)/B Knight (from 2nd draft pick)($1.8Mest.)/Bayless($3M)
SF: Harrison Barnes or Derrick Williams ($2Mest.)/JJ($2M)/Kleiza($4.6M)
PF: ED ($2M)/Amir ($5.5M)
C: Tyson Chandler ($10-12M?/Jason Thompson $2.5M)
Bench/Suit: Dorsey(~$1M)/Ajinca or Weems(~$1.5M)/returned trade from Calderon (~$7M).
Felton's team, with Knight growing into the role for the next 2yrs. I am not considering what we get for Calderon either as I look at this. Honestly looking at the Knight pick for Calderon(to Philly for Nocioni?), and that would mean we have some contract on the bench that we had to take back bumping Weems and/or Ajinca out, so perhaps get Sac's pick and trade for another pick next year or draft say a Valenciunas/Kanter and stash in Europe for 2yrs/bench? This would be along the same lines as your Okur thoughts Matt.
I would really like that team.
If the proposed Sacramento trade were doable (Bargnani + Bayless = Thompson + Garcia + 2011 First Round Pick), we could have the following line-up rather easily next year:
With two high picks we would have strong odds of winning the draft, therefore able to get Irving. If we did not win the draft outright with one of the picks, we could package them to move up and get Irving.
Under the first scenario (winning draft) this would give us a second high pick in order to also acquire a player like Barnes/Williams/Kanter.
Also this summer, DeAndre Jordan is a restricted free agent, but only up to the value of the MLE (varies, but has been around $5.7mil the last few years). He might be attainable at the right figure.
This could then be a team that could grow/gel together for a few years, with the potential of still adding strong complementary players through future drafts.
But what will really change our franchise for the coming years is what we can get for Bargnani...or if we even move him at all.
Here is a question, if Sacramento were interested in Bargnani and also won the draft lottery, what would people think of this trade:
Toronto Trades: Bargnani + Bayless + 2011 First Round Pick (for argument, let's say 4th overall)
Sacramento Trades: Thompson + Garcia + First Overall pick (Irving)
Thoughts on this hypothetical?
How about this trade plus we receieve both Utah and New Jersey's picks
We can draft say Harrison Barnes, Kemba Walker, and Enes Kanter at the same time
Sounds good no?
Don't like the trade. James Johnson should be removed. Bargnani carries more value than that and adding Johnson is more than required.
Utah: Bargnani and DEN 1st round pick
Utah gets a big man to spread the floor for Jefferson while Favors develops plus 1st another first round pick as they continue to rebuild.
Toronto gets a scoring/passing/defensive PG.
Denver gets a PF. After this season, they only have Al Harrington on the books at the PF.
Andrea Bargnani For OJ Mayo & Darrell Arthur
- Mayo was almost traded at the deadline for McRoberts and a 1st round pick.
- The Grizzlies have lots of cap space to make the deal work.
Arthur would be a talented piece they could flip again later. In the meantime he plays both center and PF very well.
LEGACY LEGENDS LEAGUE
PG - Penny Hardaway, 1995-96, Orlando Magic: 21.7 PPG, 4.3 REB, 7.1 AST, 24.6 PER
SG - Kobe Bryant, 2005-06, L.A. Lakers: 35.4 PPG, 5.3 REB, 4.5 AST, 28.0 PER
SF - Elgin Baylor, 1961-62, L.A. Lakers: 38.3 PPG, 18.6 REB, 4.6 AST, 26.5 PER
PF - Patrick Ewing, 1989-90, N.Y. Knicks: 28.6 PPG, 10.9 REB, 4.6 BLK, 25.8 PER
C - Dikembe Mutombo, 1999-00, Atlanta Hawks: 11.5 PPG, 14.1 REB, 3.3 BLK, 19.4 PER
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