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    Default Bargnani Trade Idea Thread

    Post your Bargnani trades in this thread to keep them all together.

    If you are looking for a starting point for trade partners, there is a thread here discussing trade partners.

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    Default Bargnani to Sacramento

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4eujqon

    SAC: Bargnani and Bayless
    TOR: Garcia, Thompson, SAC 1st round pick

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    Default Bargnani to Minnesota

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4794za8 *

    MIN: Bargnani and Calderon
    TOR: Flynn, Tolliver, Ellington, MEM first round pick


    *Will work after season.

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    Jeff in Toronto:
    Hoopsworld is getting us excited with a report that Bargnani might be traded! I say ship out Colangelo, Triano and Bargnani and create a defence-first environment here in Toronto. The fans would love that.

    Bill Ingram:
    I guess so! Lots of Bargs questions this morning. Don't worry - of BC wants to deal him, there will be takers.



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    Sounds like he might have value around the league.

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    Rubio isn't part of the trade machine options, but I would like to see him involved in the exchange for Bargnani. Not sure how to make that work, but would not be opposed to taking Milicic back in the deal either.

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    You can keep dreaming. There's no way Kahn gives up Rubio for Bargnani, even if we take on Milicic's contract.

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    Default Bargnani to Utah

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4gm2bgl
    Plus the lottery pick from New Jersey
    check this one out
    Last edited by Matt52; Mon Mar 28th, 2011 at 07:28 PM. Reason: let people know the team receiving Bargnani

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    Default Bargnani to Utah

    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4gm2bgl
    Plus the lottery pick from New Jersey
    check this one out
    I like it but would rather just Okur/NJ pick for Bargnani. Amir is a great back up big man, in my opinion. With Favors and Millsap, I do not see UTA looking to take on Amir.

    Barring lock out this would work after July 1st:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4afb54b
    Last edited by Matt52; Mon Mar 28th, 2011 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4eujqon

    SAC: Bargnani and Bayless
    TOR: Garcia, Thompson, SAC 1st round pick
    I like this one. Thompson would be a good center to pair with Amir and Davis. And if the Raptors draft a center in the draft, he can hold the position until they are ready to take over.

    I don't like the Flynn trade mostly because I really don't think he's going to be anything more than a mediocre PG.
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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4gm2bgl
    Plus the lottery pick from New Jersey
    check this one out
    Don't like it at all. FIrst of all, Utah doesn't need another big man, especially two. They already have Jefferson, Favors and Millsap. I also don't like giving Amir up. He's got a reasonable contract and is the type of player you can win with.

    I'm not a fan of getting either Okur or Haywood.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I like it but would rather just Okur/NJ pick for Bargnani. Amir is a great back up big man, in my opinion. With Favors and Millsap, I do not see UTA looking to take on Amir.

    Barring lock out this would work after July 1st:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4afb54b
    With respect, not on your friggin life. I'm obviously for trading Bargnani, but not for a 31 year old big man who isn't a good defender and who missed most of the season due to injury. I believe Bargnani has trade value, and I'd want either a good young player, a prospect or a lottery pick for him. To me, getting Okur would basically be a salary dump because, if he's not going to help in the long term, then he's pretty much useless.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    With respect, not on your friggin life. I'm obviously for trading Bargnani, but not for a 31 year old big man who isn't a good defender and who missed most of the season due to injury. I believe Bargnani has trade value, and I'd want either a good young player, a prospect or a lottery pick for him. To me, getting Okur would basically be a salary dump because, if he's not going to help in the long term, then he's pretty much useless.
    Okur/2011 New Jersey Nets 1st round pick for Bargnani.

    You wouldn't? I'm not sure if you saw the Nets pick.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4eujqon

    SAC: Bargnani and Bayless
    TOR: Garcia, Thompson, SAC 1st round pick
    Somehow my last 3-5 posts in various forums have disappeared. I wanted to build on the Sac trade and include the Barbosa/Alabi- Felton trade I mentioned elsewhere: if we combine with your Bargs trade with Sac, and getting say a Tyson Chandler (any clue why Dallas has Haywood signed until he is 37yrs old??), we could look at this with it:
    Salary and roster wise it would be around $60M or less and look like this:
    PG: Felton($7.1M)/B Knight (from 2nd draft pick)($1.8Mest.)/Bayless($3M)
    SG: Derozan($2.6M)/Garcia($5.8M)
    SF: Harrison Barnes or Derrick Williams ($2Mest.)/JJ($2M)/Kleiza($4.6M)
    PF: ED ($2M)/Amir ($5.5M)
    C: Tyson Chandler ($10-12M?/Jason Thompson $2.5M)
    Bench/Suit: Dorsey(~$1M)/Ajinca or Weems(~$1.5M)/returned trade from Calderon (~$7M).

    Felton's team, with Knight growing into the role for the next 2yrs. I am not considering what we get for Calderon either as I look at this. Honestly looking at the Knight pick for Calderon(to Philly for Nocioni?), and that would mean we have some contract on the bench that we had to take back bumping Weems and/or Ajinca out, so perhaps get Sac's pick and trade for another pick next year or draft say a Valenciunas/Kanter and stash in Europe for 2yrs/bench? This would be along the same lines as your Okur thoughts Matt.
    I would really like that team.

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    If the proposed Sacramento trade were doable (Bargnani + Bayless = Thompson + Garcia + 2011 First Round Pick), we could have the following line-up rather easily next year:

    Irving/Calderon
    DeRozon/Garcia
    J. Johnson/Kleiza
    Davis/A. Johnson
    Jason Thompson/Alabi

    With two high picks we would have strong odds of winning the draft, therefore able to get Irving. If we did not win the draft outright with one of the picks, we could package them to move up and get Irving.

    Under the first scenario (winning draft) this would give us a second high pick in order to also acquire a player like Barnes/Williams/Kanter.

    Also this summer, DeAndre Jordan is a restricted free agent, but only up to the value of the MLE (varies, but has been around $5.7mil the last few years). He might be attainable at the right figure.

    This could then be a team that could grow/gel together for a few years, with the potential of still adding strong complementary players through future drafts.

    But what will really change our franchise for the coming years is what we can get for Bargnani...or if we even move him at all.

    Here is a question, if Sacramento were interested in Bargnani and also won the draft lottery, what would people think of this trade:

    Toronto Trades: Bargnani + Bayless + 2011 First Round Pick (for argument, let's say 4th overall)
    Sacramento Trades: Thompson + Garcia + First Overall pick (Irving)

    Thoughts on this hypothetical?

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=68fq86n

    How about this trade plus we receieve both Utah and New Jersey's picks
    We can draft say Harrison Barnes, Kemba Walker, and Enes Kanter at the same time

    Kemba Walker
    Derozan
    Barnes
    Davis
    Kanter

    Sounds good no?

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    Don't like the trade. James Johnson should be removed. Bargnani carries more value than that and adding Johnson is more than required.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Okur/2011 New Jersey Nets 1st round pick for Bargnani.

    You wouldn't? I'm not sure if you saw the Nets pick.
    I did miss the draft pick. That does change things. I would certainly consider that.
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    Default Bargnani to Utah in 3 team deal with Denver

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4b45k79

    Utah: Bargnani and DEN 1st round pick
    Toronto: Felton
    Denver: Millsap

    Utah gets a big man to spread the floor for Jefferson while Favors develops plus 1st another first round pick as they continue to rebuild.

    Toronto gets a scoring/passing/defensive PG.

    Denver gets a PF. After this season, they only have Al Harrington on the books at the PF.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4b45k79

    Utah: Bargnani and DEN 1st round pick
    Toronto: Felton
    Denver: Millsap

    Utah gets a big man to spread the floor for Jefferson while Favors develops plus 1st another first round pick as they continue to rebuild.

    Toronto gets a scoring/passing/defensive PG.

    Denver gets a PF. After this season, they only have Al Harrington on the books at the PF.
    I could get with this, although would have a logjam at the 1/combo requiring further moves. I would say I still prefer a Barbosa/Alabi for Felton trade.

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    Default Toronto/Memphis Deal

    Andrea Bargnani For OJ Mayo & Darrell Arthur

    • Mayo was almost traded at the deadline for McRoberts and a 1st round pick.
    • The Grizzlies have lots of cap space to make the deal work.


    Arthur would be a talented piece they could flip again later. In the meantime he plays both center and PF very well.

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