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    Default Ed Davis or Amir Johnson?

    A lot of us would like to see Andrea Bargnani gone at the start of next season. If it happens, As much as I like both of them, I don't think that Ed and Amir would be enough inside. I think we would need another big to go with them. Maybe we could get someone in the Bargnani trade. I have some questions for y'all...

    1. Is Ed a center or a power forward?
    2. Do you see Amir coming of the bench for years or you think it's better for all that he gets traded?
    3. Would you draft a PF/C in this year draft?
    4. Do you think that the combination of Ed and Amir would be good enough in the starting five?
    5. Who do you think got more potential? Ed or Amir?
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    1. pf
    2. coming off the bench
    3. yes maybe enes kanter
    4. no they're both too slim to be banging with C's for a whole season
    5. ed davis
    Last edited by raptorsking; Mon Apr 4th, 2011 at 10:31 PM.

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    1. Ed's more of a 4. He can play the 5 in a pinch, but he shouldn't be a fixture there.
    2. Why would you trade a guy like Johnson unless it was some sort of sweetheart deal? In all liklihood, Amir will be coming off the bench next season.
    3. If we've got the #2 pick, Jonas Valanciunas would be my pick. If it's a top-5 pick and Valanciunas is gone, I'd take a lok at Kanter, but only if he was the BPA.
    4. For this season, they can both play together, but they shouldn't do it for long stretches. They're giving up too much girth, especially whoever's at the 5.
    5. Davis has already proved this season that he has more potential.

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    Quote raptorsking wrote: View Post
    1. pf
    2. coming off the bench
    3. yes maybe enes kanter
    4. no they're both too slim to be banging with C's for a whole season
    Agree with most answers, I'd prefer taking a SF or PG in the draft though. Best player available really, and I don't see that being a PF or C for us.

    As far as who has more potential, it has to be Davis. He's a rookie and is showing he's basically on par with or ahead of Amir in terms of talent(ahead imo).
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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    Agree with most answers, I'd prefer taking a SF or PG in the draft though. Best player available really, and I don't see that being a PF or C for us.

    As far as who has more potential, it has to be Davis. He's a rookie and is showing he's basically on par with or ahead of Amir in terms of talent(ahead imo).
    preferably i'd want irving i just like kanter because he looks like he can score inside and is big enough to play C.. pg is more important but after that i'd think it's Center since we have james who is decent. but if barnes comes along i think we have to go best player available

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    Both Amir and Davis play the "right way". I see both of them as guys I can see being major contributors should the team eventually become a contender. They defend, rebound and score efficiently. You don't get rid of guys like that. THose are the types of guys you don't let go.

    Ed is most definitely a PF, right now. He's just way too skinny to play the pivot. Maybe in a few years, when he fills out, but definitely not now.

    I think Davis has more potential. He's already close to Amir, skill-wise, and he's a rookie.

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    1. PF but could play a C if he bulked up ( depending on whose on the roster)
    2. Amir will be comming off the bench for TO,( which is a really good thing)
    3.yes, depends whose comming out this year but im really high on Jonas valanciunas
    4. possibly down the road if they both bulk up and show good chemistry.
    5. Ed davis

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    What they said.

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    1. Power Forward
    2. Amir will come off the bench.
    3. If we trade Bargnani, yes. Otherwise no.
    4. No, I think it would be a small lineup.
    5. Davis.

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    1. Is Ed a center or a power forward?
    2. Do you see Amir coming of the bench for years or you think it's better for all that he gets traded?
    3. Would you draft a PF/C in this year draft?
    4. Do you think that the combination of Ed and Amir would be good enough in the starting five?
    5. Who do you think got more potential? Ed or Amir?
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    1. PF
    2. Yes - he would be amazing off the bench.
    3. C, absolutely. Valanciunas in a heart beat.
    4. No.
    5. Ed.
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    Amir is a really good hustler and Ed is a beast, if they can co-exist together then so be it, but something arises and someone has to go, it has to be Amir. He is more seasoned and is reaching his prime in a couple years and playoff teams can use a player like him. Ed is the future of the PF position for Toronto, he needs to bulk up and work on his jumper, free throws and confidence and hes set.

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    I think I'd like to see Ed at the C and Amir at the PF, but we still need a true C.
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    Ed and Amir are both PF. Ed has more upside and is a better defender and blocker.

    Reality is if we luck out with a 1 or 2 draft pick, we r taking either Kyrie or Kemba.

    So if King Bargs gets traded, it will have to include a defensive center or else we are screwed.

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    Ed and Amir are both PF. Ed has more upside and is a better defender and blocker.

    Reality is if we luck out with a 1 or 2 draft pick, we r taking either Kyrie or Kemba.

    So if King Bargs gets traded, it will have to include a defensive center or else we are screwed.
    draft kanter and tough it out for next year... and we're already screwed with bargs at C

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    if we have a chance for kyrie or kemba we woudl be the laughin stocks of the nba if we pass on them

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    Pretty much in agreement with most of the comments. Ed is a 4 and his ceiling is higher than Amir's but Amir is a keeper and is one of the only young vets on this team.

    If Andrea is traded it doesn't have to be for a 5 but there needs to be a 5 acquired at some point so everyone can go back to their natural positions and Ed and Amir don't have to battle centres.

    I don't necessarily agree with the assumption you take the best player available in the draft. If the Raps got some bad draft luck and ended up picking 6th or 7th Alec Burks would be a candidate to be selected but with Demar at the 2 already the roster redundanices that we currently see on this team would continue.

    I don't like the notion of drafting a rookie 5 in this draft. I think the Raps should definitely try to acquire a 1 or a 3 depending who's on the board at that time. I also don't think that fans sight should be Irving, Williams Barnes, Kemba or bust. Not all of those dudes are going to be game changers in the NBA and their might be a few dudes who get slept on like in every draft. Potential sleepers P. Jones, Burks, B. Knight, T. Thompkins, JuJuan Johnson and my personal 2nd round sleeper pick Gary Flowers from Southern Miss.

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    this is obviously assuming we keep the 4th pick.... irving over kanter but not kemba.. if we pick kemba in the top 4 we will be the laughing stocks of not only the nba but the whole basketball world... especially when brandon knight is better and has more upside

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    Quote raptorsking wrote: View Post
    draft kanter and tough it out for next year... and we're already screwed with bargs at C
    Kanter has injury probs. I don't want another a possible Oden on the Raptors.

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    Kanter seems more like a sure thing and could provide more instant results; Valanciunas on the other hand will need 1 or 2 years to develop and not foul as much from the looks of it.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Kanter has injury probs. I don't want another a possible Oden on the Raptors.
    Kanter has had at least one injury, but there doesn't seem to be much evidence (at least that I've heard) that says he's either injury prone or even had knee problems outside of one time. I haven't been able to get any real information, so I think medical tests are going to play a big part.
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