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charlz wrote: View Postare you forgetting?
When MG was brought in he was touted as and known widely as "the guy" when it comes to Euro players. When Ed davis and derozen came to town for tryouts I saw alvin williams and BC and Triano English and several others who I do not know but I did not see MG - he was likely back in Europe scouting something over there.
charlz wrote: View PostThis guy is not lazy or stupid. He is also not a jack of all trades. His focus has always been in Europe - you dont bring in a defensive stopper to stretch a zone with 3 point shooting.... think about it.
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Apollo wrote: View PostHe was brought in because of his ability to spot great talent. His connections in Europe are valuable but the guys has a proven track record when it comes to finding basketball talent.
problem is MG knew Bargs since he was 16 and fell in love with him lost his objectivity not good for a talent evaluator. His judgment has cost this franchise dearly.
2 of the biggest wins of the season were against in Dallas and Orlando @ home both were done with out Bargs or calderon with a brand of basketball you simply cant play if he is your starting center.
When people suck on the job they get fired thats how it should be - get over it."I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
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charlz wrote: View Postfurther to my point that he should be punted. MG spoke of Bargs mental and physical toughness and all these intangebles which we can say now are not true. big FAIL on MG - asta la vista!
problem is MG knew Bargs since he was 16 and fell in love with him lost his objectivity not good for a talent evaluator. His judgment has cost this franchise dearly.
2 of the biggest wins of the season were against in Dallas and Orlando @ home both were done with out Bargs or calderon with a brand of basketball you simply cant play if he is your starting center.
When people suck on the job they get fired thats how it should be - get over it.
It seems to me that you just want to get rid of him because he's European and you are outwardly prejudice towards Europeans.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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charlz wrote: View Postfurther to my point that he should be punted. MG spoke of Bargs mental and physical toughness and all these intangebles which we can say now are not true. big FAIL on MG - asta la vista!
B.) Physical toughness all comes down to his definition. If he was referring to being able to play through injuries and not miss many games then he would be correct in his interpretation of toughness seeing how Bargnani has played in 90% of all possible regular season games. That's pretty good. Especially when you consider Sam had him riding the pine at times in that rookie campaign.
charlz wrote: View Postproblem is MG knew Bargs since he was 16 and fell in love with him lost his objectivity not good for a talent evaluator. His judgment has cost this franchise dearly.
charlz wrote: View Post2 of the biggest wins of the season were against in Dallas and Orlando @ home both were done with out Bargs or calderon with a brand of basketball you simply cant play if he is your starting center.
When people suck on the job they get fired thats how it should be - get over it.
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i'd be curious to know what the percentage of european busts compared to the percentage of black american busts is.
but i'm far too busy (ie/ lazy) to do that kind of leg work.
but i'd take a bet that the american bust percentage is much higher.
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Don't know.
Comparing the volume of African American busts to international bust is like comparing Mr.Trumps bank account to Mr.T's. This is what I find hilarious about Charlz's stance. He's totally oblivious to all the American born players who turn out to be busts. It's a gigantic number of players. More people fail than succeed. It's how it works.
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heinz57 wrote: View Posti'd be curious to know what the percentage of european busts compared to the percentage of black american busts is.
but i'm far too busy (ie/ lazy) to do that kind of leg work.
but i'd take a bet that the American bust percentage is much higher.
This is an NCAA proven vs. foreign. When I am down playing at the "Y" I own but if I play Early Boykins in a game of one on one he's likely gonna make me his b*... and even block my shots.
However you can get an inverted answer to your question: Rather than who are bust who came in to the NBA with foreign only credentials (like Bargs) and won an MVP? There is only one in the history of the NBA (Dirk)
2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland
2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland
2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas
2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix
2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix
2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota
2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio
2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio
2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia
1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
1998-99 Karl Malone Utah
1997-98 Michael Jordan Chicago
1996-97 Karl Malone Utah
1995-96 Michael Jordan Chicago
1994-95 David Robinson San Antonio
1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston
1992-93 Charles Barkley Phoenix
1991-92 Michael Jordan Chicago
1990-91 Michael Jordan Chicago
1989-90 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
1988-89 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
1987-88 Michael Jordan Chicago
1986-87 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
1985-86 Larry Bird Boston
1984-85 Larry Bird Boston
1983-84 Larry Bird Boston
1982-83 Moses Malone Philadelphia
1981-82 Moses Malone Houston
1980-81 Julius Erving Philadelphia
1979-80 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles
1978-79 Moses Malone Houston
1977-78 Bill Walton Portland
1976-77 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles
1975-76 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles
Finals MVP same only 1(Tony Parker)
2009 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers
2008 Paul Pierce Boston Celtics
2007 Tony Parker San Antonio Spurs
2006 Dwyane Wade Miami Heat
2005 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs
2004 Chauncey Billups Detroit Pistons
2003 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs
2002 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
2001 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
2000 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers
1999 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs
1997 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
1996 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
1995 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston Rockets
1994 Hakeem Olajuwon Houston Rockets
1993 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
1992 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
1991 Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls
1990 Isiah Thomas Detroit Pistons
1989 Joe Dumars Detroit Pistons
1988 James Worthy Los Angeles Lakers
1987 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
1986 Larry Bird Boston Celtics
1985 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Los Angeles Lakers
1984 Larry Bird Boston Celtics
1983 Moses Malone Philadelphia 76ers
1982 Magic Johnson Los Angeles Lakers
1981 Cedric Maxwell Boston Celtics
Look at all the top teams/ top stat getters/ year in and out hit ratio is way better with NCAA proven talent. Its a fact hate on if you want."I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"
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charlz wrote: View PostLook at all the top teams/ top stat getters/ year in and out hit ratio is way better with NCAA proven talent. Its a fact hate on if you want.
it's a FACT that there are more lottery picks who were busts that have come from the US than any other country.
therefore, no team should pick americans in the first round.
see how easy that is?
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There have only been foreign players in the NBA really since the late 80's, and then it was only a trickle until the the late 90's. The fact that 3 times since then has an NBA player been non-US is pretty good. You know, before Hakeem, there hadn't been an African born MVP and there was really no one from Africa that had done much. Since then, you've gotten quite a few players from Africa that have been major forces in the league.
Did you believe that black people weren't smart because none had become president? Well, now that's changed, hasn't it.
That's the funny thing when it comes to things like this.
And by the way, if you're not just talking about Europeans, but ANY international player, then you can add a whole lot more hard nosed players to that list. If you want a list, I can give it to you.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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